aquaaddict Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 hi all,i was just reading the nov endition of fishing world when i came across a story that made me feel the report was of 6 tonnes of jewfish had been netted in the shoalhaven river,with the average at 20 kg ,this equates to 300 prized specimens,the fished where sold for a paltry $6 a kg.could someone tell me how the rec fishing license works ,i thought they stopped commercial netters,and do these greedy cretins work all estuary systems,reports like this hardly make me feel like going and wetting a line ,300, 20 kg fish in 1 night ,surely would have made a very significant impact on the much prized jewfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I read the same article and it made me sick. Im sure that many jewies taken from a single river is not good for it. $6 a kg is soooo low they should ban jewies from the pros altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevvie Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Like you boys this story made me feel sick to the bone... I can't believe this is allowed to happen in what is considered a modern and progrssive country. This is a backward approach to sustainable fishing methods especially when you consider the value to the rec sector compared the 6kg dollar value of the pro's. This has effectively killed the area of it's apex predator and will have implications stretching further than just human pastime. I for one will stop visiting the area now and believe others who fish for these majestic fish will do the same. Lost revenue to the area will be enormous. How can d!@#head macdonald sit idle and allow this to continue? Look at the bay as a sign of how things can be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest madsmc Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) I too read the article in question, and found it very ordinary to say the least. The Minister seems to be very slow to react where rec fishing is concerned, except of course when the story graces our TV screens in prime time ie: ACA's story on the GW sharks at Stockton. There are many documented cases where the value of recreational fishing to an area far outweighs the commercial value. This is yet another of those cases, and a particularly sad case at that, given how prized the Mulloway is as a rec species. Even when confronted with evidence pointing out the higer value of rec fishing over commercial, the Minister, for reasons only known to himself, seems to side with the commercial sector. I'm not sure whether it was this article, or a previous one, that talked about how the US and Britain have Ministers whose sole portfolio is rec fishing. I think if we had the same in this country it would make a huge difference. Shane Edited November 7, 2005 by madsmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Mark another one up for the pros and ecological slaughter of a species. Thats a lot of mature breeding stock to take out of a system and for it to recover. Should be a jailing offence!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegear Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 It was actually 8 tonnes, and came from the 7 mile beach area near Gerroa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jewel Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Just recycle them and their gear.................... Chop the nets into smaller bits and cut the b@#tards up for crab bait. Any fishing licence holder or affected local of the raped area could apply for a share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefish Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I struggle with the prices of fish in the market, whats jew or snapper cost (not worth) 10-13 bucks a kg king 9 a keg, bonito 8, trev 4, slimies 3, yakkas 2, salmon 2, they even sell jellyfish, not sure if they import that or not. Compare that to a cow sheep or pig, they all cost heaps more than that and sure as eggs where never gunna run out of them. I reckon 1 doable solution tell pros they can only take half of what they used to and double the cost of fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky. Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 The same thing happened up in Crowdy Bay not long ago. Some people I know were having great luck fishing for Jews and then it slowed down somewhat. A few ton off the beach up there as well. Here's some reading for those who are interested about the pro's pushing to get back in to the estuary systems. Push to reopen river to pro-fishers Plan to share resources No win for recreational fishers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikila Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 On 60 minutes last night they had a segment on illegal Indonesian fishing boats denuding the reefs up north of almost all fishes, their main target are sharks but when sharks become scarce they take whatever is available, professional fishermen no matter where they come from are all of the same ilk' they take until there is nothing left to take. The cod grounds in the northern hemisphere are a prime example of their rapine attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iain Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Hooky the same thing happened in the Richmond River where in a 'landmark agreement between rec and pro anglers' a worthless piece of creek was traded to allow the pro's access to Mullet on their spawning run. I'd love to know who represented rec anglers in this 'negotiation'. This is Ronald MacDonald's attitude in a nutshell and is a disgrace. The pro's will rape and pillage any waterway they can get their grubby hands on just like the Jewfish slaughter mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlubber Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Agree with you all lads. Disgraceful stuff....for really small sums of money really Saw 60 minutes last night, and Ronald Macdonald would have to come across as one of the least proficient ministers i've ever seen. He was embarassing to be frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest madsmc Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) .....Ronald Macdonald would have to come across as one of the least proficient ministers i've ever seen. Most definately landlubber. The scary part about it is that he's responsible for an area (fisheries) that he knows nothing about. I've had a look at his online profile and sadly for us, fishing is not on his list of hobbies. Could you imagine what a specialised Recreational Fishing Minister, who actually fished for a hobby, would do. Use the license funds to buy out all commercial fisherman from every estuary system to stop the rot. Increase stocking programs to try and repair the damage that's been done. The list could go on and on. It may be a pipe dream, we may never see it happen. But it sure is a nice thought. If commercial fishing ever recommences in Lake Macquarie I definately won't be buying another license. Shane Edited November 7, 2005 by madsmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaaddict Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 gday,the thing that really gets under my skin is that so many anglers practice c&r nowadays,2 help fish stocks,the fisheries crack down on bag limits and undersized fish,while netters pretty much take what they want ,2 me something just aint right we are catch and releasing fish so these #$%^s can make quick dollar, really its the governments fault for allowing it ,something has 2 be done very soon ,maybe start a petiton ,anyone got any ideas how 2 stop this raping of our fishing stocks,and no we cant blow up there boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapers Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 i like your thinking crazed, regarding 60mins, thats unreal how they let that indo boat cross the line and get away. The unsavoury characters were taking tonnes of shark fin and snapper back home and they had the balls to hang sharpened bamboo pipes over the side all this and the navy are powerless to shoot the rapists. Ripping up the reefs, cant believe this f$%$in minister, what a DOG. He should be coming onto sites like this to answer questions, as he probably doesnt read any mail that concerned fishos send him. WAKE UP YA DOG!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlubber Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 i like your thinking crazed, regarding 60mins, thats unreal how they let that indo boat cross the line and get away. The unsavoury characters were taking tonnes of shark fin and snapper back home and they had the balls to hang sharpened bamboo pipes over the side all this and the navy are powerless to shoot the rapists. Ripping up the reefs, cant believe this f$%$in minister, what a DOG. He should be coming onto sites like this to answer questions, as he probably doesnt read any mail that concerned fishos send him. WAKE UP YA DOG!!! Mate i was fuming after that display. How weak to we look to the Indos? Oh, it was an isolated case says Ronald....well not for long Pal. Once word gets out that the mighty RAN is not empowered to deal with indos waving bamboo stakes how many of these fishing boats with $100K catches is going to be let themselves boarded? Wake up you w@nker!! Further, with relation to the ongoing rape of our fish resources evidently Ronald has no capacity to assess the true value of recreational fishing - Particularly when we talk about estuary situations where there is large rec fishing pressure to begin with.....what purpose is served by allowing commercial fisherman net Jew for $6 bucks a kilo aside from finishing off our fish stocks and prolonging an unsustainable livelihood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisso Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 really its the governments fault for allowing it ,something has 2 be done very soon ,maybe start a petiton ,anyone got any ideas how 2 stop this raping of our fishing stocks,and no we cant blow up there boats perhaps all us recreational anglers should tell ronald that we will boycott purchasing fishing licences. i thought we bought licences to stop this stuff happening. if the govt. changes the rules then as far as i am concerned the contract regarding fishing licences is null and void. if they cant ban the commercial fishers then we shouldnt have to pay to use the bloody ocean..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluecod Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 (edited) If you lot get cranky enough perhaps you might think about supporting some of the initiatives of a group called $%^&* - their aim is to provide unification amongst the many many rec angler groups, and to give them a united [if possible] voice. Edited November 10, 2005 by bluecod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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