Land based fishing-what to take?

[Fab1]

Me-

A comfy chair, small tackle box with everything I need inside,net, bucket, food & drink, sunscreen, hat, insect repellant, esky and ice in car, maybe clothes in car too.

Mrs-

All the above plus her cats, dogs, horses, birds, extra food for 3 months for us and animals, 5 seater lounge, side by side fridge/freezer, oven, 12 different sets of clothes each to cover 4 seasons, her phone, computer and tv, 3 thermoses of coffee incase one leaks, 8 different boxes of munchies to pick,Wipes, paper towels and a block of toilet paper from Costco incase, croissants and muffins from Costco incase she gets peckish on drive home and her mum if she can fit in the car after I’ve packed everything else.

What do you guys class as essentials when land based? 

 

[noelm]

I usually take a bucket with my “stuff” a rod and me, but then, I am only out for a couple of hours tops.

[Restyle]

Forgot about the trailer needed to cart all that crap, possible you’d need a kenworth. 
 

as for myself, it depends where and how long I’m going for. If it’s a local trip in the bay or river I’d take a rod or two, a chair, a bottle of water all my fishing tackle, bait and sometimes a bait esky and rod holders 

longer multi day trips I’d take the entire house with me, a swag, the swags stretcher, blankets, meat, bbq, coal, clothes, 3-4 rods, a fridge, a table, lights, battery’s, munchies, cases of water
 

[Fab1]

2 minutes ago, Restyle said:

Forgot about the trailer needed to cart all that crap, possible you’d need a kenworth. 
 

as for myself, it depends where and how long I’m going for. If it’s a local trip in the bay or river I’d take a rod or two, a chair, a bottle of water all my fishing tackle, bait and sometimes a bait esky and rod holders 

longer multi day trips I’d take the entire house with me, a swag, the swags stretcher, blankets, meat, bbq, coal, clothes, 3-4 rods, a fridge, a table, lights, battery’s, munchies, cases of water
 

Do you want a new wife? You’ll get along really well after reading your last comments.

[Little_Flatty]

A tackle bag that I can wear, with a few lures or flies inside, spare leader, scissors, landing net and one outfit. Sometimes I’ll carry an insulated backpack as well, if I’m fishing for a feed.

Keeps me mobile and on the hunt.

[Restyle]

2 hours ago, Fab1 said:

Do you want a new wife? You’ll get along really well after reading your last comments.

If she likes multi day beach fishing sessions sure thing let’s swap

[noelm]

I guess in a way I forget where I live and fish, for me, beach or rock fishing land based and even fly fishing is simply a short walk, so “supplies” and stuff like chairs are not needed, the bucket has a small container with suitable spare tackle, the bait and a knife, and if I really need to sit down, I just upend it to sit on. Bait gathering is also simple, bucket, Nipper pump or Worming “stink bag” I guess if I had to drive miles away then a lot of added stuff would be appropriate?

[Fab1]

43 minutes ago, noelm said:

I guess in a way I forget where I live and fish, for me, beach or rock fishing land based and even fly fishing is simply a short walk, so “supplies” and stuff like chairs are not needed, the bucket has a small container with suitable spare tackle, the bait and a knife, and if I really need to sit down, I just upend it to sit on. Bait gathering is also simple, bucket, Nipper pump or Worming “stink bag” I guess if I had to drive miles away then a lot of added stuff would be appropriate?

Living local is a different ball game mate.You can just walk down have a look and say bugger this I’m going back home or take your boat to the ramp and it’s packed and say the same.

When it takes me 2hr drive or so return trip and money in fuel etc we go for at least 6hrs or more to make it worthwhile.We use to leave home at 5am and come home at 9-10pm back in the day and make a day of it.

I can’t do that these days.

[XD351]

These days I have simplified things a little because I hate carrying anything I might use and trimmed it down to stuff i definitely will need .

Beach : a rod , sometimes two , shoulder/ wading bag which has everything I need inside ( not much - a small tackle box , a spool of leader , a belt with bait box and knife on it , a pair of pliers and scissors )a rod tube ( clips to the bag ) and a bucket with my bait and water bottle in it

Estuary/ freshwater - lure : a flick stick and  sling bag which is crammed full of lures, pliers,scents etc.  I usually don’t do more than a couple of km so i hydrate well at the car so no need to carry heavy water bottles. 

luderick : a rod , a small backpack which has some tackle and floats inside , bottle of water and two buckets, one is stored inside the other for transportation. These have my bait / berley and gardening trowel inside until i get near the water and use one bucket as a berley bucket so it gets filled with sand and the other to keep fish in , short session I just kill,bleed  and place in the bucket - long session I use a keeper net . And of course a landing net .

Bait fishing : Estuary would be same as luderick but a sidecast fitted to the rod instead of a centrepin, lose one bucket and  the trowel and add some bigger hooks and sinkers to the tacklebox.

Freshwater: same flick stick , lose the sling bag , add a small bucket for bait  , a small tacklebox with a couple of hooks , tiny sinkers , some splitshots, swivels and a few bubble floats .

[noelm]

I think once you become used to fishing the same spot for the same species, it’s easy to simplify/downsize, I have been fishing for Bream off the rocks with nothing but my rod and trusty bucket, and another couple of fishermen turn up, weighed down with tackle boxes, an armful of rods, back packs and all sorts of gear. They always ask how I’m going and what am I catching, I say “Bream” they usually reply that they are going to catch anything around! That to me indicates a “cast and hope” type with no real plan or species in mind, and invariably, they will be going home empty handed or with a bag of rubbish fish (in my opinion) 

Edited January 9 by noelm

[Fab1]

42 minutes ago, XD351 said:

These days I have simplified things a little because I hate carrying anything I might use and trimmed it down to stuff i definitely will need .

Beach : a rod , sometimes two , shoulder/ wading bag which has everything I need inside ( not much - a small tackle box , a spool of leader , a belt with bait box and knife on it , a pair of pliers and scissors )a rod tube ( clips to the bag ) and a bucket with my bait and water bottle in it

Estuary/ freshwater - lure : a flick stick and  sling bag which is crammed full of lures, pliers,scents etc.  I usually don’t do more than a couple of km so i hydrate well at the car so no need to carry heavy water bottles. 

luderick : a rod , a small backpack which has some tackle and floats inside , bottle of water and two buckets, one is stored inside the other for transportation. These have my bait / berley and gardening trowel inside until i get near the water and use one bucket as a berley bucket so it gets filled with sand and the other to keep fish in , short session I just kill,bleed  and place in the bucket - long session I use a keeper net . And of course a landing net .

Bait fishing : Estuary would be same as luderick but a sidecast fitted to the rod instead of a centrepin, lose one bucket and  the trowel and add some bigger hooks and sinkers to the tacklebox.

Freshwater: same flick stick , lose the sling bag , add a small bucket for bait  , a small tacklebox with a couple of hooks , tiny sinkers , some splitshots, swivels and a few bubble floats .

You have it all planned out.

23 minutes ago, noelm said:

I think once you become used to fishing the same spot for the same species, it’s easy to simplify/downsize, I have been fishing for Bream off the rocks with nothing but my rod and trusty bucket, and another couple of fishermen turn up, weighed down with tackle boxes, an armful of rods, back packs and all sorts of gear. They always ask how I’m going and what am I catching, I say “Bream” they usually reply that they are going to catch anything around! That to me indicates a “cast and hope” type with no real plan or species in mind, and invariably, they will be going home empty handed or with a bag of rubbish fish (in my opinion) 

I find with fishing you’re likely to catch anything with anything even in the same spot as I’ve proven to myself many times or nothing at all.

Remember the old wall in the lake where the fishing platform is now? We use to fish there for “anything” using different baits and have caught flathead, bream, tailor, whiting, blackfish,flounder, at various times sitting in the same spot using the same bait.Other times fishing the same spot and baits we haven’t even had a nibble.

  This has happened to us everywhere we’ve been fishing so it tells me if the fish are there you will catch them fishing anywhere from any spot.Maybe I have it all wrong I don’t know that’s what I’ve found anyway.

 

[noelm]

Just now, Fab1 said:

You have it all planned out.

I find with fishing you’re likely to catch anything with anything even in the same spot as I’ve proven to myself many times or nothing at all.

Remember the old wall in the lake where the fishing platform is now? We use to fish there for “anything” using different baits and have caught flathead, bream, tailor, whiting, blackfish,flounder, at various times sitting in the same spot using the same bait.Other times fishing the same spot and baits we haven’t even had a nibble.

  This has happened to us everywhere we’ve been fishing so it tells me if the fish are there you will catch them fishing anywhere from any spot.Maybe I have it all wrong I don’t know that’s what I’ve found anyway.

 

Yes, I agree fully….up to a point, these days if I am going spinning for (say) Flathead, the method, location and gear is opposite to if I am after Whiting, of course there’s times when you catch a variety of fish on all sorts of gear, but (to me) to be consistently successful you need to “specialise” and fish accordingly. Beach fishing to me is a Whiting only affair (with maybe a Tailor session now and then) so all I take is long shank hooks, Beach Worms and a light rod, if I was to (say) use Squid or Pilchards on ganged hooks for bait, my Whiting chances are at best minimal, if you see where I’m coming from? If Flathead spinning, I am fishing to totally different location to where Whiting will be, not saying they are not swimming around, but the lure size and “zone” I target is polar opposite.

[Fab1]

5 minutes ago, noelm said:

Yes, I agree fully….up to a point, these days if I am going spinning for (say) Flathead, the method, location and gear is opposite to if I am after Whiting, of course there’s times when you catch a variety of fish on all sorts of gear, but (to me) to be consistently successful you need to “specialise” and fish accordingly. Beach fishing to me is a Whiting only affair (with maybe a Tailor session now and then) so all I take is long shank hooks, Beach Worms and a light rod, if I was to (say) use Squid or Pilchards on ganged hooks for bait, my Whiting chances are at best minimal, if you see where I’m coming from? If Flathead spinning, I am fishing to totally different location to where Whiting will be, not saying they are not swimming around, but the lure size and “zone” I target is polar opposite.

I agree with what you’re saying too.We change baits & rigs to suit which is essentially what you’re saying.

like now I know if I went ti the lake and drifted a nipper or prawn down the channel along the islands I’d catch flathead if I wanted to target them.

And whiting on beach worms on a #4 l/s hook over the sand flats and in channel.

Most places we fish we don’t really know like say yourself and guys like yowie as we are far from master anglers and try to find likely places and try several rigs/baits to see “what’s around”.Have a scout I guess.

[XD351]

58 minutes ago, Fab1 said:

You have it all planned out.

 

 

Yep and 40yrs of lugging crap around that I never used made me think about it ! I left the chuck it and chance it brigade many , many years ago - I find those that still fish that way spend more time worrying about the “what if” scenarios instead of doing some homework and narrowing down to the species that are the most likely to be present in that area they are fishing , this way I can minimise the amount of gear I carry , the time burnt up deciding on what rigs to use and maximise my chances of success. Having rods that can be used over a wider range of fishing styles also helps . 

[Little_Flatty]

9 hours ago, XD351 said:

the time burnt up deciding on what rigs to use and maximise my chances of success

This is why I carry very little. The more time I spend re-rigging is less time with a bait or lure in the water! With the compressed length of my sessions these days, fishing time is so precious that I’d rather donut than constantly muck around with gear.

Like @noelm mentions, the more focused you are, the less you carry. But that said, there are few predatory fish that won’t eat a curl tailed grub or soft plastic jerk bait. The only thing you need to do is approximate the size of their prey. That’s my starting point, and a handful of both with the appropriate sized hooks/jigheads/sinkers is all you really need to catch a feed in most places.

[noelm]

Probably the only time I am aiming for “whatever is there” is when I an drifting waiting for my crab traps, I just drift anywhere near the traps, a bean sinker running to a swivel, 8-10lb line, a long shank hook and a packet of frozen Prawns. Most times we end up with a Flathead or two, maybe a Whiting or legal Bream, but fishing is not the goal, crabbing is, drifting just fills in time.

[XD351]

I believe that the more choices you have in front of you the more time you will spend trying to decide ! I used to lug around a lot of sinkers when beach fishing thinking I would need them but in reality once conditions got rough enough to need the big ones the beach became unfishable anyway. I now carry maybe half a dozen sinkers - a couple of #2 ball ,a couple of #4ball and a couple of medium star sinkers. 
I was doing the same with jig heads and have also limited what I carry  there as well as have any gulp plastics as they leak and stink -I would rather add scent myself anyway .