mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hi Guys Just wondering about Berkley Vanish?? I never used it so wondering what everyone thinks of it? I was in Big W and saw some in 6lb and was wondering what it's like to use as leader for plastics and/or hard bodies??? I use Siglon at present which I find great but the Vanish seems a lot cheaper. In Big W it was sold in 150mtr spools I think for about $18 (from memory). Cheers David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken A Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I tried Vanish a few times & wasn't happy with it at all. Chucked it out in the end. I use Yamatoyo in 4 & 6 pound for leaders & it's excellent. In the heavier leaders I found Nitlon to be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) Hmmmm, thanks Ken. I've heard Nitlon was OK. I was really only looking at Vanish because it seems heaps cheaper... that might explain it's performance? What didn't you like about it, knot strength or something else???? I use a double uni to attach the leader to the mainline and have had no problems at all with Siglon in the knot department. Cheers Edited January 30, 2006 by mottyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken A Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I tried it 3 times over a 2 year period & I had knot strength problems on 2 lots & the 3rd had weak sections in it breaking well under its rating. I use the Stren knot & I have had no dramas with Yamatoyo or Nitlon. Here's a link to the Stren Knot- worth trying it out. Stren Knot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Thanks Ken, great info. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I have been using Vanish and had no problems to date. I have used it for the last 2 years and find it to be resistant to abrasions and easy to tie knots. Have never had it fail for me in any way. I have used it as a leader on lures and when fishing baits. Mainly used 15lb when fishing for bream and flathead. Have also caught a few nice kingfish up to about 78cm using it as my leader and has performed fine. Cheers Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Well... there you go. Thanks Martin. Two years without a problem is a pretty good test.... especially on Kings. Anyone else!! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_lure Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Well... there you go. Thanks Martin. Two years without a problem is a pretty good test.... especially on Kings. Anyone else!! Cheers I have never used a flurocarbon leader, straight Daiwa mono (good quility, not the elcheapo spools) for me from 4lb - 20lb, then i use Penn 10X for heavier leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantm Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I mainly use Vanish but use Siglon as well. I cant say ive had a problem with the Vanish to date with line class up to 12 pd, seems ok so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Thanks guys, Hi Lure, interested in your reasons for not using a fluro leader, I always thought they were better cause they were basically invisible and much harder wearing than normal mono, especially when fishing the snags or structure. I use Penn 10x for heavier leader as well and love it It also ties a very nice dropper loop on a paternosta rig... I had a look on the ABT bream site and found a short article on what the pro's use. All but one in the article used Vanish. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_lure Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Gday Mottyman, I tried Nitlon and Siglon and noticed no noticible improvement in my catches (bream and bass from the canoe) I also like to use surface lures and find that the fluro likes to sink, pulling lighter lures under the surface and impeding the action. plus, mono is cheaper and comes in big spools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken A Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Maybe they've changed the brew in the time since I have used it - who knows ? After 3 duds I won't go back to it. Good point about fluoro sinking on surface lures too - mono is the way to go there for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 I also like to use surface lures and find that the fluro likes to sink, pulling lighter lures under the surface and impeding the action. Thanks mate. I've only just started some Bassing adventures using Chugga Bugs and Basscada's so far. Also have some River2Sea surface lures and some other assorted top water lures and poppers to have a go with. So far nothing to show for it but I'll keep at it over the weed beds on the Nepean. Also keen to get my hands on some spinner baits and Kokoda G-Vibes and have a go casting into some structure up in the gorges.... it never ends does it??? Fair call Ken, a few bad experiences will do that! Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken A Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Also have some River2Sea surface lures Hope that includes the mighty Buggi Pop in black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) Ken, It sure does except the black was all sold out when I bought mine, I've got the green/brown one and am going back for some more soon: How sharp are the hooks on those things!!! They "stick" to you if you lightly touch them they're that sharp. They look so life-like don't they!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers Edited January 30, 2006 by mottyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken A Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 The hooks are sharp but pretty weak. I change them over to small Owners or Gamakatsu. They are a top lure & bream love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottyman Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Cool, when fishing on the weekend amongst the magroves I considered giving a surface lure a go as there were heaps of insects around and some "swirls" in close to the trees. Kicking myself now I didn't spend 10 minutes fishing the surface - next time. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jewel Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Had no problems with Vanish (kings & jews, bream and flatties) Dont like Nitlon, it abrasion resistance seems ordinary If you can find it Razor flurocarbon is the $#!^ for light stuff (only availible in 6,8,10 and 12lb) Siglon is not bad, particularily the "tough" Duel makes a cracker leader in the heavier stuff (10kg up) Horses for courses, there is no be all and end all, it just depends on what you are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthefisherman Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I use vanish as a leader for all my sp fishing, haven't had any dramas, then again I haven't caught any real big fish either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishless scotty Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 (edited) For those who use vanish, do you use the vanish line or vanish leader. Edited January 30, 2006 by fishless scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I use vanish in 4, 8, 14, PENN 10x in 20 40 No probs with the vanish, I bought the 300 m spools of vanish and they are a couple of years old now Question, Does FC deteriorate the way Nylon does, Sunlight UV etc Basically what Im asking is should I ditch the current lot and buy new before I start running into probs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jewel Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I am led to believe that FC does deteriorate in the same way mono does, but if your not leaving it out in the sun for the day on the boat you shouldnt have any problems. Ive got reels with 10yo mono (stuff that has been pretty much retired but gets run out for nostalgia purposes!) and the line is not showing any signs of deterioration. My tackle maintinence is pretty good but not excessive. I wouldnt be too concerned unless you have been leaving the stuff in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spic Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Guys I spooled up my livebait outfit with 30lb of Vanish and was quite happy as it caught 4 Kings on it on Monday. I found it quite soft and easy to tie. I spose time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombora Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hiya Jewel, My experience with Nitlon has been fantastic. I actually think its abrasion resistance is great; 2kg Nitlon leader held an 82cm Narra Lake flattie for me last year, and just on Monday this week 2kg held an approx 60cms plus flattie hooked deep again at Narra lake. Keeping the flatties' heads below water with a low rod helped too but a do like Nitlon. The 5kg stuff also did sterling service over the hard coral flats in Tuamotu atolls in December and that is one harsh environment; the coral rock there is razor sharp. Cheers Bombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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