Penn Prevail II 10' for lure and shore jigging?

[Noob-Fisho]

I was looking at getting the Penn Prevail II 10', 8-15kg, 30-100g casting weight.

Do you think this rod is too heavy for continuous casting because it is composite and not just graphite?

[Rebel]

I have one.

I use it for throwing metals from the rocks.

Top rod.

Cheers.

[Noob-Fisho]

@Rebel The 10' has 30-100g cast weight and the 9'6'' has 50-150g cast weight. Which do you feel is the better version?

 

[Rebel]

I have a 10'. I haven't had any problems

I also have a 12' for beach fishing.

Also have a look at the Abu Garcia Veritas spin 4.0 10' 10-15kg another great rod.

Cheers.

[DrRaymondSnapper]

Love my Penn Prevails. I have the 10' and 12' models that I use off the beach , rocks , breakwalls etc and rotate according to swell size , bait type etc. The 10' is nice and light for extended bait sessions  as long as the reel isn`t too hefty but I don`t know if I would use it for repetitive casting with metals etc when there are so many excellent rods that are designed specifically for that purpose. As an all-round rod , I think its a great choice for many different situations and it`s very well built and configured. And looks good if you are fashion-conscious. Personally , I prefer the Shimano Hard rocker BB 8'6" for throwing lures off the beach but its cast weight is 10-40gm which may not be enough for your intended usage. It`s light to carry and throws the proverbial country mile. You don`t mention what you are casting and where but you won`t be disappointed if you buy one of the Prevails.  I`d suggest the 10` as the 12` version is more for baits off the beach and is subsequently a heavier , bulkier unit. I have a few beach rods including Aerowaves and Wilson Live Fibres but the Penns get the most use. Great fishing rods in my humble opinion.

[Noob-Fisho]

Thanks @DrRaymondSnapper I was looking to shore casting lures and jigs at Kingfish, Jews etc in Sydney Harbour and Parramatta River. Maybe a 10' Prevail is too heavy for that purpose. I will look around at lighter outfits and possible short rods, I am not sure yet. Thanks again.

[DrRaymondSnapper]

Sorry , I see by the title that you mean to use it for lures and shore jigging. Since the Prevails have a slower action then they may be suitable for shore jigging but I`m out of my depth on that subject. They cast very well and won`t be too exhausting for long use with the 10`model. If I was only allowed to have one rod for multiple fishing scenarios then the 10` Prevail would likely be my choice. Don`t forget though that a matching reel designed for your purposes is also important and you may not get the best from your rod selection . whatever you choose , if its doesn`t have the right reel attached to it.  I sound like I`m sponsored by Penn with this reply. Go down to your local tackle store and wave a few rods around to get a feel of their weight and action. Sales people love to see that and it will give you a much better idea of what is going to work for you. Most fishing outlets stock Penn rods. They are very popular , which says a lot about their quality.

[DrRaymondSnapper]

I`m a bit of a Shimano fan so endorsing the Prevails is unusual for me but if you are looking for a shorter , sweet casting rod then its hard to go by the Shimano Hardrocker BB in 7'6" to 8`6" length or the Coltsniper BB in 9`6" and 10` models. I also have a 9`6" Jewel which is a great alternative at a lower price but is still a quality rod. They also come in 8` and other  shorter models. I caught my best jewie on that Jewel so it has a special place on the rack. Their Anarchy rods are also excellent too and come in multiple lengths. Shimano rods are , generally , excellent quality and perform well. It depends on your budget but it pays off when you have your dream fish on the other end of the line. 

[Noob-Fisho]

@DrRaymondSnapper Just had a look at the Coltsniper BB 9'6", would 30-40lb braid be ok on a rod rated for PE3? Most rods have a PE range like 2-4 but this one only has a single measurement.

[DrRaymondSnapper]

I`m not 100% sure but suspect that it may be too heavy for that rod. Maybe go a bit lighter and use 20 - 25lb. The 9`6" rods advise PE 2 and 3 which would equate to about 25-30lb maximum. It would be a bit more exciting and sporting to use the  lighter line and less like skull-dragging. The reel that you use would also be a factor. Using 20l - 25lb line should be adequate for most scenarios and would cast better and further than heavier braid. Knot tying would also be easier with the lighter stuff , especially if you are relatively new to the sport and are chasing hard fighting fish. I think that the Coltsniper would be a great choice for your requirements. All Shimano`s JDM rods are top-of -the-line . I love their Zodias range for soft plastic fishing. Beautiful rods to use.

[Rob81]

On 6/4/2022 at 5:06 PM, Noob-Fisho said:

@DrRaymondSnapper Just had a look at the Coltsniper BB 9'6", would 30-40lb braid be ok on a rod rated for PE3? Most rods have a PE range like 2-4 but this one only has a single measurement.

It should be fine. Depending on brand/make of braid, PE3 is anywhere between 30lb and 48lb. Most braid brands would show you PE thickness anyways, if that makes it easier for you to decide.

[Noob-Fisho]

@Rob81Yeah I've found some Varivas Avani Casting that is 40lb at PE2.5. When looking at Fluoro and Mono leader PE doesn't seem to be spoken about as much can you give me any advice on picking leader for a PE3 rod?

[Green Hornet]

1 hour ago, Noob-Fisho said:

@Rob81Yeah I've found some Varivas Avani Casting that is 40lb at PE2.5. When looking at Fluoro and Mono leader PE doesn't seem to be spoken about as much can you give me any advice on picking leader for a PE3 rod?

I’ve just switched a couple of reels over to Avani Casting braid and I’m extremely happy with its performance. My rigs are lighter and I got PE 1.5 and 1.0.

Only braid is measured with a PE rating and mono/fluoro in millimeters diameter. With your PE2.5, I’d be looking at looking leaders between 25 and 50lb to start with, depending on what species your targeting and how rocky the area is you’re fishing.

Edited June 6, 2022 by Green Hornet

[Rob81]

4 hours ago, Noob-Fisho said:

@Rob81Yeah I've found some Varivas Avani Casting that is 40lb at PE2.5. When looking at Fluoro and Mono leader PE doesn't seem to be spoken about as much can you give me any advice on picking leader for a PE3 rod?

As Green hornet says, PE rating is for braid thickness only. Not a scale used with mono or leader materials.

Varivas line in general is pretty good. Most of main ones anyways.

With the leader rating, might depend, best to fish appropriately for target/environment. Rocky/reefy areas a little thicker, less structured areas fish lighter. Chasing kings heavier, chasing tailor a little lighter. You'll have make a judgement. for PE2.5 Id might use something between 25lb to 60lb based on the above factors.

3 hours ago, Green Hornet said:

I’ve just switched a couple of reels over to Avani Casting braid and I’m extremely happy with its performance. My rigs are lighter and I got PE 1.5 and 1.0.

Only braid is measured with a PE rating and mono/fluoro in millimeters diameter. With your PE2.5, I’d be looking at looking leaders between 25 and 50lb to start with, depending on what species your targeting and how rocky the area is you’re fishing.

Going "Lighter" or thinner braid, I think it all depends on environment. Too many ppl fuss too much over having a higher breaking strain on thinner line. Yes it is nice to have a high breaking strain on thinner line, but if you're fishing areas where there's plenty of oysters along the sides and risky having your line go over or through it, then PE1.0 is more likely to break easier when rubbing along the oysters compare to PE1.5. It might be a bit but it could make the difference between having your rig or not.

Although, in most cases, fishing off a safe place like a wharf for bread and butter, its a good advantage to have the high breaking strain, especially if a hard fighting bycatch comes along.

[Noob-Fisho]

@Rob81 👍

[Green Hornet]

@Rob81The lighter rigs I mentioned were only done so regarding my thoughts on the qualities of the Avani Casting braid and these are primarily used casting lures from the beach.

 In certain applications matching braid diameter with rod strength and lure weight can be paramount to gaining maximum casting distance, especially when land based. 

I agree with you that upping the line can have its advantages in a nasty environment, but that’s not the point I was trying to make.

[Rebel]

I use Mono line. Not a problem.

Braid. To much stuffing about & can get expensive.

Cheers.

[Will1702]

High end options:
- Zenaq Sonio 100m PE 1-3 cast range 10-70g lures, 10-not 70g jigs 
- Zenaq Accura 100H PE 2-5 30-100g lures, 30-200 for jigs (you'd need to run pe 4 to get the full potential of this rod)

Mid range options:
- Palms shoregun evolv range 

Most of these are all rounder lure fishing rods and can handle topwater, shore jigging
If you want to specialise in shore slow jigging id recommend the Sonio or the Palms Shore Slow Shore Slow series.

Make sure you match your reel to your rod. You'd need a high gear ratio for this style of fishing. 6000 size reel for PE3, 8000 for PE4

Edited June 7, 2022 by Will1702

[Noob-Fisho]

@Will1702 Do you know how the Shimano Coltsniper BB 9'6" PE3 compares to the Palms Shoregun Evolve? The Coltsniper is about $290.

[Will1702]

@Noob-Fisho the coltsniper bb would be a good option in that price range, I just mentioned Palms because they’re reputable for shore jigging tackle.