Dlvbw yeah it’s my normal spot if I’m having no luck inside always wondered how far out it was as takes a while to get back to Pittwater.your right about how slowly it drops off ,I was out on Saturday picked a few snapper near whale beach and went to flattie grounds when it went quiet only 1 keeper blue spot I have found them hard since the floods.Dave it can be a good spot most times but lots of undersized so need to move around normally further out