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Thanks mate some great advice there and I like the idea of covering all bases. Nath

Ok guys, I'm sure it has been asked before but with new lure designs constantly evolving, what's your favourite SP (or any lure for that matter) for Kings. I've just got myself a little tiny and am determined to get my first King this summer. I Fish the Hacking mainly. Hooked my first King last summer in my Kayak on a Squidgy 3" Silver and black paddle tail SP but lost it before I could net it so still on 0 by my account. Thoughts? I would love to see my 7 year old get onto one of these beats. Nath

Great, informative, easy to read report. Thanks for sharing that I really enjoyed it. Nathan

Ok, last month went up to Noosa for a few days. Took the young fella out on a hire boat. We caught this little “Bream” or so I thought in the back canals. Worm for bait. looking back now I’m not so sure it was a Bream with that big dorsal fin. The young bloke reckons he’s got one up on me with a new species that I have never caught. Is he right? Thanks

Hi guys, Just an update with this one. I've tried tightening the bail arm screw, checked the bend on the bail arm against a new reel, added more braid to the reel. took it out yesterday for a spin, first cast noticed line straight into the gap not, the roller. 4th or 5th cast hooked a small tailor. Bang line pinged at the reel and that was decision made. Reel gone to landfill. My 7 year old asked me if he could have it but I said sorry mate I'm going to save you the grief. Funny thing I've just noticed this reel is now on sale at a shop for $40 down from $70. I wonder if the word has got out after Shimano turned me away. interesting.

Yeah guys adding to that. The only way to truly test to see if the line bypasses the gap or gets caught in it is to run the line through atleast the first guide on the rod and then pull it taught from there as if you were a fish taking the bait. You might be surprised to find that it may stick in the join, in my case pretty well every time.

Hehehe, your right. That’s because I’ve been loosing so much line over the last couple of months. im surprised yours isn’t having the same problem looking at the photo. ill check the angle of my bail arm tonight.

For the record guys here are some pics of the reel. If you haven't noticed the problem before please check closely on retrieve to ensure the line is running on the roller. It took me 6 months to figure out what was right in front of me the whole time. Does anyone understand on the side of the reel where it says Nylon (No.-m) 2-100 What is the 2? I take it the 100 is 100 metres of Nylon It can't be 2mm thick?

Hi mate, Funny I was thinking of using superglue in this little gap with the same principal as the epoxy. I did take it to Shimano and they did understand the problem but didn't want to take the responsibility. Basically fobbed me off with a go away and buy a more expensive reel or use mono or thicker braid.

Thanks mate, lesson learnt I suppose. Think you're right.

Thanks guys, Xerotao - yes that's 100% the problem, correct Restyle - Thanks I'll try that, though I'm worried about spending say $50 on 10lb braid and have it get worn down by this rubbing on the bail arm end as well. Big Neil - Yes agree with that too. I think that seems like the long term answer. Savit - Thanks mate. To be honest as Neil said, this reel is the lower end of the market so I don't want to be making a massive fuss over this. I am disappointed though as you would think Shimano would only sell good quality reels at all ends of the market.

Ok guys I’m seeking your opinions on a problem I have with my reel. not sure if I’m allowed to mention the company or if it will be edited out but I will anyway. i bought a Shimano 1000 Sienna combo from a shop about 6 months ago and have found it to be ok up until last Wednesday when I finally discovered the answer to a problem I’ve been having since I bought this reel. Funny enough I’ve just checked the reviews on this reel and I don’t believe anyone else has flagged it. over the summer a mate has been taking me out in his boat and we have been doing pretty well. Well to be honest he has and I have been what I thought was unlucky with many fish busting me off. I have been finding it strange though that my 6lb braid (that came with the reel) has unusually been breaking at the reel end, not the leader end. ive finally realised this is because when I flick the bail arm over after casting, instead of the braid slipping down onto the line guide, it is getting jammed at the smallest of gaps where the bail arm finishes, a couple of mm before the line roller/guide. as soon as you load up with a fish the braid pings. Not always, depending on the length of the fight and how worn the braid gets in this gap. i took it to Shimano last week thinking they would have an answer but they didn’t want to know me. said I shouldn’t be using only 6lb pound braid as it is not designed for it which is total rubbish. I thought they might at least take some ownership of the bad design and have an answer or way to fix it. Suggested I use mono instead! havent bothered taking it to a shop as I don’t believe it is their fault. anyone had this problem and if so what do you guys think I should do about it? i now have to manually move the braid over to the roller before retrieving the line. Very frustrating. Thanks nathan

Thanks all, yeah having thought about it again and re-reading the Jewish thread for the 47th time, I have had a brain explosion and confused leader size with main line size. Agree 40lb is just falling off the reel. dont know what I was thinking there sorry.

So had another crack for a Jew last night. Finally got some squid late arvo, well only caught one actually but it was a cracker so was more than enough bait for a session. Headed to Wanda, wind picked up just after dark and for the second time in a couple of weeks I bird nested my Alvey and lost me second lot of new line, 40lb. Not sure why I'm doing that now, I must be putting it on the wrong way or too loosely. Never had trouble in the past. Very frustrating when you have a fresh squid sitting on the beach with 20 mins to high tide and no line in the water. Anyway, short story is that sadly I didn't get a thing once I sorted it out but I did want to mention that I was lucky enough to meet a fellow by the name of Ahmed who was a great help to me and was full of detailed knowledge from his experiences. I was blown away by how enthusiastic he was, how much fine detail he puts into his Jew fishing and how much info he was more than happy to share with me. He even tied me his preferred rig and we spoke at length about the right set up, conditions, baits etc etc. nothing that isn't available on this site already but it was eye for detail that impressed me. So thank you Ahmed if you're out there, lets hope I'm yet another step closer to that first jew. P.S. I was surprised that I didn't even get a hit with squid caught only hours before. Nathan Â

Thanks all, Yep definitely uping my leader and we'll see how we go.

Thanks guys, im going to try for yakkas next week. whats the go with them, berly around any wharf and use a sabiki jig? is that the best method?

Ok so this is this half a report and half an enquiry. for a while I’ve been trying to catch my first King in my Kayak. they are plentiful in both Botany Bay and the Hacking at the moment so finding them isn’t a problem but it is landing them that is the real challenge. i’m using Soft plastics and running 6lb braid with 8lb Fluor carbon leader, 1000 seriers Shimano reel. the trouble I’m having is getting past the Tailor who continue to bite me off a lot of the time. this morning was another example, tailor pinging me before I can get the lure down to the Kings which I see down deeper following the Tailor when they get hooked. i got close this morning, getting a king to the side of the yak before the leader gave way, probably due to it being frayed by the Tailor again. do you think I need to upgrade tackle. These tailor are becoming a pain in the backside. does anyone run with a wire trace these days? Nath

Hi All, Tried again for a Jewie the other night off Wanda beach. Used fresh Tailor & Salmon that I caught in the first two casts around sunset. They were to large to use as livies so had to slab them up. So the session started positively but that was about the end of it. Once the sun went down, so too did the fish. No runs though conditions would suggest otherwise as they were favourable by all accounts. Fished for the last 2hrs of the run in and first hour of the run out. Nothing really constructive to report other than I saw a massive ray in the shore break. Was praying that he didn't sniff out my bait and luckily he didn't. Lots of other fisho's up and down the beach but I didn't see any action. I'm pretty much sacking the fresh Tailor or Salmon idea now. Being watching you tube clips of people who swear by Tailor heads for Jew but I have never seen it work first hand. Still struggling catching squid locally at Cronulla but I'll keep going and hope that all the ducks line up one day. Nathan

Hi Guys, Taking the family up to Sunshine Beach QLD early next year around Feb/March. Anyone recommend the beach for fishing and any helpful hints. I trust the usual suspects are on offer, Bream, Whiting Flathead? Is this beach susceptible to catching beach worms? Thanks

Hi Guys, Heading down to Mollymook for the long weekend. Can anyone tell me if you can get beach worms on Mollymook or Narrawalle beach? Also as a back up, can you pump nippers in Narrawalle inlet? Thanks Nath

Hi Guys, I'm heading up to Coffs for a few days later in the year around November. Looking to catch a few fish off the beach (Park Beach). If anyone has any advice for me that would be great. I would love to be able to find somewhere to catch some live bait. The aim will be to take the boy with me in the mornings or afternoon and then if I get the chance, get serious and have a go at a Jew if they are about at this time of year.

Well done Mrs Swordie awesome job.

Thanks everyone for your comments. It was suggested that it may not have been a Jew and yes your right I didn't see it so I'll never know 100% for sure. What I can tell you is that it wasn't a ray. I've caught these several times and you pretty much know once they bury in the sand and it's a stale mate. This thing fought with big head shakes like I've never experienced. I've caught 3 good sharks before off Cronulla but this didn't feel like that either. I was hoping when I inspected the line that there would be a clean break indicating a cut off from a sharks tooth, however the end of the line was all curled like when you have a knot that pulls lose. I don't think a shark could stay on for that long without breaking off anyway. Just my opinion. It was 25lb leader but not fluro carbon just plain old mono. I think this is was partly the problem. I will definitely buy some FC now I'm starting to believe. Agreed in hind sight 50 mins was too long and I started to realize that towards the end. Inexperience I guess. Maybe I was over cautious early on and it cost me in the long run. I do like the scull drag idea, I've seen that done before.

Well I wasn't planning to share this story as it is not at all constructive but having just read the "Silly mistakes" post from Mitch 18092, I thought I might add to it. Let me first say that if you are just perusing articles looking for quick ways to catch Jew then this post is probably not for you as I still have no experience at this. If however, you have been targeting these fish for a long time, then you might be able to relate to this report. I write this nearly two days after the event as it has taken me that long to come to terms with it. If you haven't guessed by now, yes I had a good fish on and lost it. I hope by writing this it will help me get passed the disappointment. Some of the older members might remember my previous posts dating many years back. Time after time, disappointment after returning home with no Jewie. I'll start the story half way into the session. I am armed with fresh bait that I've caught in the couple of hours leading up to the high tide. I'm still at the same beach that I have been trying on for years as I have seen and heard them caught there before - Cronulla. I'm in a good looking gutter, It's twilight and feeling in with a chance. My past history tells me that nothing will happen again tonight but there's that 1% of me that says "stay positive & confident". The first problem strikes when the line goes heavy with a dead weight, I know instantly that it is a clump of weed so I aim to quickly get it in and out of the way. This problem would later lead to a chain of events that end in disaster as my rig snaps and I lose the lot. It is at this point that I realize I've left my spare rig on my work bench at home. I'm angry with myself for being poorly prepared. I have no choice but to re-rig in the dark with my head torch. I tell myself not to rush the knots and ensure they are tied correctly but I'm also conscious that the tide is just about to peak and (in my mind) the prime time for a hook up. I put on my best looking bait and fire out a cast. Sure enough, the inevitable happens, something picks up the bait and runs. I give it about 30 seconds and decide it's time to put a bit of pressure on and see what happens. At this point I'm not too bothered. I've had this a few times before and it's ended up being sharks or rays. This time however is different. I feel those big head shakes that I have read about time and again. I soon realize that this is it, it's a Jew. Thoughts pass quickly through my head of all those lonely nights. Here it is, It has finally happened, I'm on and it is a big fish. Part of me wishes it isn't that big so I can at least get number one on the board. I tell myself to stay calm, take a deep breath, don't panic. 4 or 5 big long runs and 50 mins later, I'm feeling scared, excited, tired & battered and above all worried that this thing is not relenting. I never feel on top in this fight until but it turns again and I get back some ground. Suddenly, the most bizarre thing happens. All weight is lost and my Alvey is having some sort of backlash problem. My brain can't fathom what is happening until the guy fishing about 30m up the beach to my right comes walking towards me. The penny drops as I realize he has tangle up with me (or I have tangled up with him). I am furious but stay relatively calm. To the blokes credit he some how untangles our lines and to my amazement, the fish is still on and it is at this point where I start to believe that maybe this is my night, maybe it's meant to be, maybe I actually get one and be able to post it on this forum. Maybe the Mrs won't have to suffer any longer. Just when I think all is back on track, I discover that during the commotion, the fish has now gone south and is heading for another fisherman 30 meters down the beach to my right. I've lost any sort of control that I did have over the fish. I now find myself crossing lines with the second bloke. I've somehow managed to tell myself to stay calm and keep cool for the entire fight but the next few seconds would test that theory to the max. Both guys are now trying to help me get this fish in, but it has the last laugh. The line parts way with the fish and I am completely and utterly shattered. A quick inspection of the line and knot failure is confirmed. The next 10 minutes is mostly disbelief. I don't remember driving home and when I walk in the door the Mrs pretty much guesses what has happened. I've replayed it over in my head several times, did I take too long with it, could I have put harder pressure on it? who knows. I just hope it's not another 10 years till the next one. Maybe leaving the spare rig at home cost me. Whatever the case it's over now I guess. If you made it to the end, I'm sorry it was long winded but if you made it to the end you'll understand. Nathan

Yes I was thinking the same. Only problem is, you will still have the same problem as usual. They are busy. Most of the good gutters will have people fishing them at this time of year day or night.