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  1. hi luringbream just read your post mate i thought i'd include an old photo of the dolphin fish caught by my mate jimmy bowers of ballina i wonder if they're still getting many of the larger ones around sydney these days? dolphin fish caught by jimmy bowers at ballina regards jewgaffer
  2. 21.8 KILO GIANT TREVALLY CAPTURED JULY 2007 BY JAY COTTRELL AKA FISHRAIDER "JAKJAYNO1" LURE GOLD BOMBER LONG A hi flattieman. i appreciate this question and answering in some detail does gives me a chance to emphasise how important it is for younger members to get their gear right when targetting predator fish particularly when fishing in environments where bigger specimens are likely to be lurking. jay cottrell went out to target trevally on a hard body lure and jay knew precisely when and where to do it at this time of the year. as you would be well aware, the timing has to be near perfect to target any fish on artificial bait such as lures simply put the conditions have to be properly assessed and, not that there is an over abundance of fish as much as the particular species has to be on the boil. try as much as you like on hardbodies or plastics and you won't get results unless you know firstly the actual conditions and secondly the likely feeding habits of the particular species you are targetting in those conditions there are certain things i can't post in open forum so let me just use the words these words for now :- this particular giant trevally capture may well lead to bigger things for our young gun fishraider jakjayno1, jay cottrell flattieman here is the detail you are asking. REEL shimano calcutta 700 overhead ROD 12 kilo shakspr custom built double handed ugly stik u.s.a. blank tr range tiger LINE 50lb sufix braid LEADER 40lb seguar fluro carbon 1 1/2 metre wind on leader LURE KNOT surgeons loop LURE gold bomber long A LOCATION the fish was caught in the tweed river, preserved and mounted by jay's taxidermist regards jewgaffer
  3. hi mitch i am sorry i missed reading your reply and an invitation to go next week. thanks heaps for your invite i'll fish anytime but i need 2 tides and ebb, 15hours from early am to get the best fish in daylight. mitch pm me we will go from there mate thanks jewgaffer
  4. Jewgaffer25/07/07 hi nightstalker yep just read your stuff and tweeked up quite a bit and you were so right about the barometric pressure as i just checked in my boat and the guage has dropped quite a bit to a normal 1016 and wow she stopped at steady so go for it for frid sat or sun. as i think next week may mean more sw influence and another cold snap on top and struth here we go with sw and looks blizzards and snow again i thought i would answer your questions in this manner. ONE if i was fishing for hairtail i could be in hairtail grounds not fishing for hairtail if that makes sense to you in this case i would have lumo tubing betwen two smaller hooks, in this case 6/0s and tubing above the top one just in case and with another type of bi catch in mind with the jewies in those grounds and simply do my no hairtail chant. in my case the this is due to multi line tangles and my own dilemna would be whether it's best to use catch and release techniques with a comfort lift or just shoot them. no offence to hairtailer fishos it's still a great past time but i once i got so crook from dinner on hairtail that even my teeth ached and then my gums bled and nowadays even the thought of a hairtail turns shirl off her chips. oh i may as well add this so you'll see the effect hairtail can have on others. i was tied up to a yellow buoy (the outside one of the two mate) in the current fishing in 70' at wobby near the big blue yacht there with my mate italian sam and my other grandson james aged 10 at the time and more of a four eyed library type kid than the fisho his litlle brother, little byron, my great little livie catcher and my bad back deckie. i passed a rod that was bendng away like a beauty to young james to play a jewie but sam got it into the boat for james in the form of 6' pike eel which actually lurched at little james who hid behind the centre console and was so scared he wanted to ring his mother. not long after that sam caught a hairtail, decided he wanted his hooks back and sam suddenly screamed louder than the noise from the party house opposite as the hairtail had grabbed hold of his thumb. james was spooked for the night, even saw serpents in shadows and became horribly seasick in mill pond flat water and said pa i don't think i ever want to go jew fishing again please pa. TWO the jews seem to be acting different this year due to the abnormal conditions hanging in for so long. the place is still loaded with schools of soapies and i reckon you just have to think real hard as to where and when the schoolies, which my mate jimmy bowers often says he regards schoolies as being jews from 7 kilos up, will come in as marauders. i believe there is two different strains of jewies on the hawkesbury and that is the colonized ones are unlike in habits than their gutters of stockton beach cousins who come into maraud the rivers and go in the same manner as the iluka and yamba, south west rocks and of course the ballina versions. just to make the word "colonized jewies" a little clearer it seems colinazation is slowly happening way up the georges and more so it appears since the deep piloned bangor bridge was built when you are fishing at hawkesbury you have to think like "which is which"? that i am fishing for as i seem to be getting zilch jewfish. so off goes the pumpkin and on goes your head and you may well say ok everything must be wrong - weather, atmosphere , barometric pressure, rain wind and you say what the hell is it! for a good example then you might say wow i got it ! i will fish only the long deep sandy runs away from the reefs and rocks because....! and i'll see if the wow happens again this time and so on.........got it ? night stalker your name is very appropriate particularly in the case of the "marauders", the marauding in from the sea type jewies, as the local jewies have got well and truly used to aqua marine motor bikes doing burn outs up river and all the usual other deafening noises in the hawkesbury so you need to think hard and pre plan what the jewies are likely to be doing on that particular day and adapt or relocate to allow for any changes in their habits and i believe if a good brain thinks harder than a fishbrain a good result will come for sure i really hope this helps regards jewgaffer.
  5. no vince i was with inhlanzi in the boston whaler jewgaffer
  6. hi bob i honestly don't know what causes it but i have noticed phosphorous in waterways a helluva lot as most others have also. it would be terrific for everyone's info if someone on this site has fully researched this particular subject or anyone qualified who can can elaborate on the scenarios particularly the interaction of phosperous on the water and marine life i do know from squid fishing and this is on a serious note bob my friend and the other half of laurel and hardy. no offence bob they were good blokes too. one summer night up at harrington there was phosphorous literally everywhere but zilch fish, on a manning river backwater jetty which i call the mosquito wharf just at the beginning of the homes at harrington where i was fishing with my grandsons and a group of round the bend kids on a fishing day out when the little rods had drags running everywhere and no hook ups even on little no 8s. some kid said hey big little mullet. i said don't call me that like the guy in get smart and quitely put on a squid jig and that's what was pulling the rods around. so maybe squid are attracted to it bob perhaps others would like to comment more on this as it sure is a pretty interesting subject. cheers bob jewgaffer bob nice you received your new overhead as i had the pleasure of recommending this model to you as a good friend in my reply. your question "what overhead?" = a "dirty big bird" with rear action anti reversable direct overhead torpedo dropper the high pressure fluid drive model (pat. pending) and bob when you look at it mate there's no stopping this baby
  7. wildfish thanks again for coming to the rescue mate. this site's going to educate me and shirl, that's for sure cheers jewgaffer
  8. Grant nice flathead . go well with a bit of lemon and chips, that one mate. looking at the tweed the water looks pretty nice .i think jay said there are still a few bg jacks hanging in up there cheers mate jewgaffer
  9. zrealist thanks for your kind help i found another cable that fits this phone its a nokia n73. i don't know drag and drop for that only to tidy up the desk from the help page. the other pages for help are too many links and just too difficult and time consuming i suppose the good thing is kids are learning computers as they are learning to talk i don't want to know too much just pictures and i'm ok now using the world search page , even ebay but mate i even got put off the air for two weeks for shill bidding which i had never heard of before when i simply wanted to save an old rod from a mates garage clean up. cheers mate i like to say it as it is. i learn more that way and by the time i read the other helps replies i know i'll have it right for sure jewgaffer
  10. i like that reply penguin fits sam real well , one of the nicest universally accepted blokes you'd ever hope to meet though don't think i'd ever getta many nicer blokes outside of jimmy jay and italian sam as family friends and close fishing mates it's funny how you do get the real big bream when the jews come in and the little ones get to hellout of there penguin tell you what, it's funny to see when i'm up at ballina when the jews are chasing the bull mullet, jimmy and jackjayno1 and i have contests to see who can throw the biggest bream the furthest coz they peck the eyes out of our livies and then chop off their nose and their breathing works. so what is our bread and butter fish down here sometimes needs pest repellent up there. thanks for chatting mate. i find my self running to check my mailbox when the email pager bloke make his announcement as i have nothing much else on my plate till someone pm's me or phones me to fish as my prop is getting the blades repaired regards jewgaffer
  11. My wife shirl bought me a high technical nokia mobile phone camera for my birthday and we put my old card into it. it has a book with it and a charger and a hearing aid as well. optus gave a nokia number and they transferred to a lassy in the phillipines and i took notes of what she was trying to describe. the situation become worse . she transferred me to feedback for another set of steps to take and some belly dancing music till my hand held telstra went flat. pushed a few buttons and kept getting a site called zoo. ring optus back and the girl said zoo is for advanced users ring the phillipines again. i thought here we go round in a the usual old circle so i am posting for help here i meant to ask inhlanzi on hawkesbury yesterday but it finished a up forgotton topic as we had a higher priority things to do. we were spreadibng 8 jewie rods in unison and it would have taken us a fortnight just to say the spelling of our names. this is the help i need from a mobile camera phone genius in easy to understand steps. i how to take a picture without optus zoo technicallities as they told me i can't delete the zoo. 2 how to get the picture into an album 3how to get pictures out of the phone and back into the computers picture computer thank you the successfull applicant gets a tub of non freezable chemically treated bait thanks everyone and paul zreb i didn't want to trouble you . you have enough on your plate as it is jewgaffer
  12. re: hot topic "WHAT OVERHEAD?" tell you what bobfish. better still and not much less value than any other overhead "WHAT OVERHEAD?" could be the *dirty big bird* model with anti reverse rear action high pressure torpedo release the direct all overhead fluid drive model (pat. pending) and looking forward to striking you bob regards jewgaffer fish on but it sure could hail quite a lot bob
  13. REPORT ON TARGETTING JEWFISH AT HAWKESBURY TODAY FROM JEWGAFFER - MISSION ACCOMPLISHED -GREAT WEATHER - PERFECT BOATING DAY - PRETTY POOR FISHING - BUT GOT WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO . INHLANZI MAY LIKE TO ADD A FEW MORE DETAILS LATER AND A FEW PICS HE TOOK WILL BE AVAILABLE SHORTLY Hi everyone. this should have been a pretty short and sweet fishing report as inhlanzi and i report back to you on our day trip to the hawkesbury. but i thought while i do have a bit of time i would give you a little bit more to digest so that you can give a bit more thought to solving the jewie riddle within this rather lengthy report i'll let you make up your own minds whether or not you follow along with with what i am talking about in your quest for a few trophy size jewfish which are often around in good numbers at this time of year simply by looking at the size of the jewie scales at most of the hawkesbury boat ramps. it seems someone must be catching them with fishing lines. it don't look like those jewies would fit into crab traps to me. I received a pm from inhlanzi late last night which led to a telephone call from him in that unmistakable broad africaan accent telling me he was going to fish the hawkesbury for jewies today and asking my opinion on the barometric pressure for his jewie prospects and seeking my advice on possible hot spots in the conditions i suggested he fish box head for livies and motor out to fish around the reef in the bay around the back of lion island and should he have tailor chopping up his squid consistently on the bottom to immediately move out to the pinnacle, drop down in hook size for the chance of getting snapper as well and fish the remainder of the run out and then find a good sandy stretch between lion island and wide of walker for the run back in. i informed him that in my opinion is was definately a big no no for fishing closer in such as at juno in this particular run in. i advised him that if they do come in jewies may well travel in packs out in the open thru the sand from along the side of lion island into the walker side of the mouth during the run back i today. i thought thursday would be better though due to a west and north westerly being forecast immediately after the recent southerly and south westerly influence which has just only recently gone to west which would only bring further cold fall off the ranges and lower water temperatures in the rivers. i told mike the opposite to a south easterly, a north easterly and a move towards easterly has been more often than not proven to make a lot of difference to predator fish such as kingfish hunting back running inside river mouths and further up into rivers for marauding jewfish coming in from offshore mike said he was dead set on gunyah and wanted to be there at daybreak. i told him in that case i would take my time and meet him at 11am for the run in and he could pick me up at brooklyn. it's amazing how keen fishos can get to meet and become good fishing mates on this site:- i had noticed a bloke in a boston whaler who knew what he was doing and fishing away quite determinedly at a couple of good spots several times before over a year or so as being the boat it is, a boston whaler has a certain aura and a perception about it that lingers on in ones mind. the whaler resembled my own mustang centre console in shape and had a proper jewie set up. in fact i had my eye out for a boston whaler for about two years before i sold my yalta deep sea boat but had to settle on a mustang centre console which is also one helluva jewie boat to my mind anyway. still i had always wanted to buy a boston whaler for its excellent fishability and it's intrinsic value the bloke in the boston whaler turned out to be inhlanzi, a fishraider who i know now as mike . inhlanzi once pulled along side me at gunyah for a chat. i had no idea he was a fellow member of fishraider who had exchanged chatter and gave me top advice on other matters in quite a few posts not recognising we had struck one another before and nor did i . when i first saw mike i was pretty impressed. i immediatley said to myself this bloke knows what he is doing. it was great to see a bloke by himself handling a little drogue and sea anchor in the gunyah whirlpool and spreading out various livies in a competent and tradesman like manner. he reminded me of a tuna hooper and longliner all in one. cripes i thought to myself this guy knows all the ropes and was as busy as a roof truss carpenter in his boston whaler. he had the appearance of a fisho on a life threatening mission to catch jewfish in a hurry and airfreight thirty of them to south africa . i could tell he knew the exact spot i was in on that day and had to settle for almost a no go zone in that pretty narrow sandy drop off, around a pile of rocks and snags which in reality can only accommodate one boat within about 20 square meters around that particular jewie thoroughfare. anywhere outside that perimeter is only a rough chance of a jewie hook up, a haven for boggle eyed yellow mourays and a real bad anchor buster in the 70' sections as well. anyway i met mike at brooklyn after he fished from 6 am - 11am for only a wheel barrow sized ray as he was set on fishing at gunyah till i arrived at brooklyn to his credit mike persevered with catching livies early and got us a good supply of yakkas and tailor ready for the session together from 11 am to the top of the tide after which mike put the boston back on the trailer around about 5pm i must admit if mike hadn't had to go to a professional consultancy meeting, old jewgaffer here would have fished on for another 24 hours as the conditions had just began to change to north east with a big chance of further towards east in the morning the result for our session finished as a good day on the water but again a poor fishing day after many hours of presenting perfect baits and getting almost nothing mike got a nice a nice healthy flathead which he generously donated for dinner for shirl and myself. mike got another ray, a pretty big shovel nose, and the jewie was my only contribution for the day besides something i was about to gaff but decided to shoot instead. i would like to say this . tomorrow, thursday with a north easterly aspect should be a much better day for the marauders, the schoolies and the big late winter jewfish to come in. in my saying this you should remember that last year's warm normal currents due in spring didn't reach us until late february march and i reckon everyone had aweful fishing results in coastal estuaries over last spring and Christmas. thus those warm current have hung on much longer this winter . i can tell you more too. when we froze in our boat's this winter it would have been very much warmer if we had been floating around in the water. this info may help everyone think about what the marauding jewies are going to be like soon when they replace these loitering soapies which were all over the place before the big floods and still hanging around well after them even on the hairtail night. the place has been lousie with sea lice, and other puffed up two headed gastropods and worse according to what humesy and myself encountered by catching 14 eels on a beautiful boating and picnic day on sunday . i believe this is the change we have been waiting on for nearly 2 months. in my opinion top times for tomorrow are from 11am till 10pm in three close together locations . my mustang is off the road having a prop repaired by solas propellers in queensland. does any one want to go thurday and if so we can meet up at brooklyn at 11am ? short notice is no problem for me and i will be there with bells on inhlanzi will get the few photos out of his camera and they will be added today cheers jewgaffer and thanks inhlanzi your boat was fabulous and we had really did have a great day in that whaler. yep inhlanzi we sure will have to team up regularly, i tell ya, and that mike was a very nice thing to suggest p.s the name inhlanzi is "very catching" and means "fish" in africaan but in my own opinion it really means "fish raider" in africaan and then some mike !
  14. hi mate if your thinking of getting around in the early evening in your inflatable jigging the bottom of drop offs around deeper holes, this might not a bad idea > > a short jig rod with a big snapper sinker running above a swivel attached to a 2mtr heavy leader and a large tsnumai squid profile lure with a pre sized cork to free float the tsunami and let it flutter around and jigging as your boat raises in the chop. i used to do similiar as a kid and morgo it's amazing how many various ways you can rig up to foil them. you could even anchor and let the boat motion of your inflatable all the jigging work for you and you could have a couple of rods in the holders too. hope this gives you some food for thought and some food to fry in big fry pans. jewgaffer- still resting up back muscles, enjoying the site, watching tv, and riding the calm hawkesbury with humesy after major back fractures and an op better fish are my physios now
  15. yep those marks we now share look the real agogo. i'd like to bounce a 12 inch pakula squid look a like down around those wrecks and i'd even fill it uo with sydney "wreck oysters" coz you never know what's going to be lurking down there wildfish and that's for sure cheers jewgaffer
  16. hi frank were the bottom bashers getting any yesterday ? regards jewgaffer
  17. STORY AND UPDATE ON JAKJAYNO1'S 21.8 KILO GIANT TREVALLY AND A PHOTO OF JAY'S FISHING MENTOR GUN FISHERMAN JIMMY BOWERS OF BALLINA. this giant 21.8 kilo trevally caught in the tweed river by jay cottrell of kingscliff, fishraider jackjayno1, has been subsequently mounted by a taxidermist and is now displayed in jay cottrell's trophy room. GUN FISHO JAY "THE HAT" COTTRELL AKA JAKJAYNO1 that trevally would be a great sight to see in the flesh when shirl and i spend some time with jay in kingscliff in the coming weeks. i am sure jay will spend lots of time telling me some of his own secrets on how to really target the large varieties of big fish in rivers so i should be able to relate back the facts and best methods for our younger members for pulling good fish from from beaches, cliff faces and river mouths to backwaters, streams under road culverts and shallower seepage lakes. i wanted to add that some of our young fishos seem to motor away in their boat way from the unobvious hot spots and fish in the deepest wrong waters. land based fishos should creep up at night in stealth in the darkest area, drop a big livie down and make sure you remain hidden and silent with not even a cigarette lighter or a headlamp flash. you be pleasantly surprized, you may get a trophy fish size fish yourself. when i was up in ballina with jimmy bowers, jay, and fish kill phil scott in july of last year jimmy won the second largest whiting and jay won the second largest largest cobia in the evans/ballina classic.. ..there was no prize for the pike eel i caught which jimmy said was the biggest pike eel he'd ever seen, and over two foot around it's girth. when i got it near my net it actually launched itself onto the rock jimmy and i were standing on, lined the both of us up and actually lunged at us snapping like a rabied dog. jimmy said we should take it down the ballina japanese restaurant they would pay $60 bucks but it would be hard to knock on the door with a monster like that in our arms. i have included photos of my best friend the gun grass roots ballina fisho jimmy bowers , the former brother in law from a long way back and still one of the best fishing mates of our own stewy swordfisherman thanks everyone and jewhunter jay received your pm and is looking forward to fishing the tweed with you. grant would you please forward the photo of the big jewies you caught on plastics near the mouth of narrabeen in the rain after the flood. they are too big to go thru my email. jewgaffer THE GREAT JIMMY BOWERS JAY "THE HAT" COTTRELL AKA JAKJAYNO1 I added this recent photo of my fishing mate italian sam with a trophy size bream and a small jewie caught when we fished at the same spot i fished with humesy during the ongoing southerly shut down on sunday which resulted in our 14 eels
  18. hi roberta this is a terrific post roberta, very informative and i love your pre-rigged expertise and always having a good supply of leaders and traces. i got hold of those kids toy pool floats called noodles and always have a good supply of various traces and leaders wound onto them to make rigging up easier and less time consuming in the boat. doing what you do saves time and makes your own fishing safer, faster and much more comfortable others should follow your float rigging systems and other recommendations to the letter, they'll get better fishing results particually when targetting fish at the various depths you sure are a gun lady fisho and a very unique and distinguished one at that, i tell ya your float rigging ideas are excellent and your systematic float balancing system would be great for floating livies around at depth particularly on heavier floats in those sudden big swells when the action can go wild great photos, very descriptive and very educational for everyone cheers jewgaffer
  19. hi fish hard. i fish with the bigger spinning reels and alveys and use power pro and ande braid around the breaking strain you mentioned. a friend recommended i try the much cheaper melaluka brand dyneema braid and gave me 200 metres . i tried it out and got hold of thru ebay 3000 metres of that dyneema braid which is in continuous spools of 100 metres in 500 metre lots. it cost less than half the price of the other spectra braids i use. the melaluka handles very well and after quite a lot of use looks like it's built to last ok. i would recommend it at the price but to be sure it might be best used on rods with good silicone guides or other guides known to be braid friendly.i am not sure about its capabilities with other rods i favour the feel of the power pro and like the ande line feed and i do a bit of jigging with tsunamis and drop bears on yankee ugly stik tigers i am not a braid expert but i am not disappointed with this lower priced dyneema braid at all and i'm a pretty frequent user. i will stock up on it again and use the power pro and ande till it runs out on my penns also roberta it was i think who metioned an australian made downrigger i looked at it on ebay and they were usuing an 80lb braid line coloured in segments instead of downrigger cable. that braid is available on ebay from a seller at cronulla i think from memory and our sponsers may be able to advise you as to coloured braids for depth counting hope this helps but again i'm no braid expert i only fish with it. jewgaffer
  20. very well reported andrew. i couldn't have made it so readable and enjoyable. andrew thanks for your great company on sunday. i found your quintrex simply outstanding to fish in and i would like to say you are a top boatie and you know all the ropes mate . i couldn't say that during the session coz we were laughing so much about the effect of barometric pressure on eel spincters and shirl said to thank you for getting me back in two pieces . shirl said the other half of me was an eels head she found trebble hooked to my brain in its pocket revolving around in the washing machine i told you andrew the most humane way to release an eel is to cut the leader off and gently connect the eel and andrew i mean gently, to a two litre milk bottle which allows the eel to simply float backwards and forwards with the tides until the hooks either gently dissolve in their tummies or simply pass out thru their system. we sure had a lot to talk about especially having attended the same school, sydney grammar school. they taught you be a good teacher of kids and i won the farrar english prize and the citizens french prize in 1954 which i guess must have qualified me for spending most of my time driving and owing taxis playing snooker and fishing for jewfish. you simply have to speak both languages plus a litlle mandarin and you have learn all of the poetry by lord byron to catch them. very well reported andrew. i couldn't have said it more acturately yep as i said we'd only be targetting eels because of the continuing southerly front. i'd like to let everyone know that although andrew humesy said it was a perfect night for boating and we were indeed in my prime spot for a bi-catch of good bream in my best emergency jewie spot, it did finished up a freeky eel paradise as the jewies had shut down as well. she's looking good for everyone on wednesday, thursday, friday. - only during the night at taren pt and during the day would be best in the hawkesbury. cheers everyone and i welcome pm's on the barometric pressure subject or more about estuary fish shutting down during continuing periods of southerly winds as i have the time and i am going to wait at least another 24 hours for the change to have time to settle in properly before i go out fishing. a big thank you again andrew and i will gladly fish anytime with you, thereddraggon what a nice bloke, the knowledgable bobfish and i'll see you soon my loyal mate jakjayno1 in kingscliff and of course jimmy bowers, my ex employee, my snooker coach and the real father to all the kids in ballina good on ya jimmy . eelgaffer andrew i have included a photo of my long time boating mate italian sam taken when sam and i last fished at the exact secret spot you and i fished on sunday. but on that day the southerly had just commenced in the rain too but i repeat only at the start of a southerly influence . italian sam and his trophy size bream and a jewie cheers jewgaffer and yep andrew we'll go back to el primo again or it's my shout of the mandarin and we'll go in the mustang it's my turn to shout the boat and besides i have two batteries but to tell you the truth i needed just a little more flat battery time in your boat right where the tide started to run up slower around that other eddy.
  21. i like to have a mediterranean centuri knot pulled down onto the eye by the fish so i lube the line and the loop with tuna oil as i bait up to prevent any weakness caused by friction. the slipping of the knot onto the eye sets the hook solid i find that way easier than retying a hook. jewgaffer
  22. hi roberta re your mention of manning point . have you ever fished for blackfish to the left of the gantry at harrington looking back over the manning towards the harrington hotel ? i was just wondering because a lot of of gun blackfishermen and women travel from hundeds of miles inland just to catch the big blackfish at harrington gantry. cheers jewgaffer fish on
  23. hey bob james' is a double bimini twist around the skirt and the new red high heels regards jewgaffer
  24. kiwi dan yep jay cottrell sure does that well on even one leg. jewgaffer fish on
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