frankS Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, dotB said: nice rig , not ready to get something yet Frank , Also at our age we need something with a windscreen and some sort of a canopy , thank you for the offer. OK You're not ready yet. I do have a windscreen for the boat. I took it off to make way for the electric motor and to be able to get to the anchor well that these boats don't usually have. I also have a brand new still in box bimini 4 poster that is not on the boat. there is a full travel cover and a camping set up that fits the boat but I have not bothered ever fitting these extras. It just takes a while to set everything up and then there's storage for the bulk canvas, so I have taken it all off as I will never use it. It is all here for anyone that wants it when they buy the boat. BTW These added photos is how I bought the boat. it had a 30hp Yamaha on it but the carby was off it so I have never had it running. still got the motor and the guy I bought it off said the motor was a good one and he only took the carby off to clean it, I bought the boat before he cleaned it. IF anyone wants the boat with the Yamaha instead of the Mercury I could swap them over as I still have motor and controls but they would need to re-fit the carby and it would need a new impella by now as it hasn't run since I bought the boat. Also the boat has an extra plate of alloy welded into the transom so it is twice as thick as the original transom so larger motor could be fitted. Frank Edited October 6, 2022 by frankS added text 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffb5.8 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 12:02 AM, dotB said: just the boat , although to start with i will have t buy a used trailer in ok condition, and a used motor also. Hi whats your total budget if you thinking of paying $2k just for a boat, the trailer will be probably another $1k and depending on motor age / condition another $3k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, jeffb5.8 said: Hi whats your total budget if you thinking of paying $2k just for a boat, the trailer will be probably another $1k and depending on motor age / condition another $3k It’s 2k budget for the lot mate they want.You don’t get much for that from what I’ve seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowjigger Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) On 10/7/2022 at 3:13 AM, dotB said: nice rig , not ready to get something yet Frank , Also at our age we need something with a windscreen and some sort of a canopy , thank you for the offer. A windscreen usually means forward controls. It makes for a very hard ride sitting up forward on a small tinnie - as well as making it hard to fit an electric motor. I would be sticking to tiller control for a small tinnie. PS: how do plan on getting the boat home if you are going to buy the trailer separately (buying the trailer first will limit your choice of boat)? It would also generally save a lot of running around to buy a BMT as a package. Edited October 9, 2022 by slowjigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 58 minutes ago, slowjigger said: A windscreen usually means forward controls. It makes for a very hard ride sitting up forward on a small tinnie - as well as making it hard to fit an electric motor. I would be sticking to tiller control for a small tinnie. PS: how do plan on getting the boat home if you are going to buy the trailer separately (buying the trailer first will limit your choice of boat)? It would also generally save a lot of running around to buy a BMT as a package. Read the post he wants the lot for 2k.Boat,motor,trailer.As for small Tinnys sitting up front or standing mine slices through chop like butter.Don’t know if it’s because it has about 300kg of weight up front or what.😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowjigger Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fab1 said: Read the post he wants the lot for 2k.Boat,motor,trailer.As for small Tinnys sitting up front or standing mine slices through chop like butter.Don’t know if it’s because it has about 300kg of weight up front or what.😂😂 I didn't say anything about the price in that post. I was just talking about the practicalities of buying the boat, trailer, motor separately (as per his explanation). The price is a different issue. Though given you have mentioned it he did say 'just the boat' when I asked him about the 2K budget. Edited October 9, 2022 by slowjigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campr Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just a hint for anybody buying a 2nd hand tinnie. If it has a ply floor, make sure you lift it to check underneath. Not only to check for electrolysis issues, but the condition hidden under there is a good indicator of how well it has been looked after. Also be wary of rigs that haven't been used for a long time. Good luck. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffb5.8 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 On 10/4/2022 at 1:15 AM, dotB said: but our budget only allows us to buy boats that most of you would not bother buying because they are so old ,eg. $2000 On 10/6/2022 at 12:02 AM, dotB said: On 10/4/2022 at 6:41 AM, slowjigger said: Does $2000 include a trailer and motor? You will have to worry about their condition as well. just the boat , although to start with i will have t buy a used trailer in ok condition, and a used motor also. 21 hours ago, Fab1 said: It’s 2k budget for the lot mate they want.You don’t get much for that from what I’ve seen. That is what i was trying to work out, originally, they said $2k as a budget guide and then mentioned that $2k was just for the boat and he would buy the trailer and motor separate $2k for everything is going to make it a small tinny purchase, something like a 3.7mtr alloy, 9.9hp maybe a 15hp tiller steer with a basic trailer. But if he has $2k for boat and another $2k for trailer and motor he jumps up a little to a 4 or 4.2mtr tinny and a 25 - 30hp tiller or an older forward steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowjigger Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 hours ago, jeffb5.8 said: That is what i was trying to work out, originally, they said $2k as a budget guide and then mentioned that $2k was just for the boat and he would buy the trailer and motor separate $2k for everything is going to make it a small tinny purchase, something like a 3.7mtr alloy, 9.9hp maybe a 15hp tiller steer with a basic trailer. But if he has $2k for boat and another $2k for trailer and motor he jumps up a little to a 4 or 4.2mtr tinny and a 25 - 30hp tiller or an older forward steer. Yes, it seems a very odd approach compared to just buying a registered boat, motor and trailer, ie a going concern. Also, there is a better chance of getting a water test which will show up leaks and cracks more readily than a visual inspection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 7 hours ago, jeffb5.8 said: That is what i was trying to work out, originally, they said $2k as a budget guide and then mentioned that $2k was just for the boat and he would buy the trailer and motor separate $2k for everything is going to make it a small tinny purchase, something like a 3.7mtr alloy, 9.9hp maybe a 15hp tiller steer with a basic trailer. But if he has $2k for boat and another $2k for trailer and motor he jumps up a little to a 4 or 4.2mtr tinny and a 25 - 30hp tiller or an older forward steer. Like I said 2k buys bugger all from what I’ve seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, slowjigger said: Yes, it seems a very odd approach compared to just buying a registered boat, motor and trailer, ie a going concern. Also, there is a better chance of getting a water test which will show up leaks and cracks more readily than a visual inspection. That approach would be a no brainer for me.Either I’m going blind or I can’t see where they state they want to pay 2k for just the hull.Im sure it was for the whole boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I just re-read post and they mention they’d pay 2k for example for the boat. I don’t know about all you but if I talk to someone about buying a boat I mean buying a boat,trailer,motor not just a hull. This person wants a complete boat but we still don’t know how much they can afford as they used 2k as an example in original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowjigger Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 I was going by this exchange: Posted Thursday at 12:02 AM On 10/4/2022 at 6:41 AM, slowjigger said: Does $2000 include a trailer and motor? You will have to worry about their condition as well. just the boat , although to start with i will have t buy a used trailer in ok condition, and a used motor also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, slowjigger said: I was going by this exchange: Posted Thursday at 12:02 AM On 10/4/2022 at 6:41 AM, slowjigger said: Does $2000 include a trailer and motor? You will have to worry about their condition as well. just the boat , although to start with i will have t buy a used trailer in ok condition, and a used motor also. I’m going blind.Missed it completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotB Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/9/2022 at 6:56 PM, campr said: Just a hint for anybody buying a 2nd hand tinnie. If it has a ply floor, make sure you lift it to check underneath. Not only to check for electrolysis issues, but the condition hidden under there is a good indicator of how well it has been looked after. Also be wary of rigs that haven't been used for a long time. Good luck. Ron thank you for the tip, i will do what you said , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotB Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 7:57 PM, Fab1 said: I’m going blind.Missed it completely. after reading all the comments we decided to wait and add to our budget before we buy something , thank you for your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotB Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 5:13 PM, slowjigger said: Yes, it seems a very odd approach compared to just buying a registered boat, motor and trailer, ie a going concern. Also, there is a better chance of getting a water test which will show up leaks and cracks more readily than a visual inspection. true what you said , but buying a registered (package ) is quite expensive for us , buying everything separate will be much easier money wise, it can take a long time but you could end up with a better rig at the end for less money , it really depends on what is available out there and what the seller is willing to accept for it , just saying . we are not ready to buy anything yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotB Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 we are not ready to buy a boat yet , from all the information here we decided to wait and save up more for it , thank you for your reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankS Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 In my opinion it is much cheaper to buy a package deal rather then buy seperate. Most 2nd hand motors worth buying are generally as much if not more than many package deals. Small 12 foot tinnies are cheap but once you start getting into 14 foot and larger cheap boats are hard to find, Lots of cheapish fibreglass boats about with very old motors on them. Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, frankS said: In my opinion it is much cheaper to buy a package deal rather then buy seperate. Most 2nd hand motors worth buying are generally as much if not more than many package deals. Small 12 foot tinnies are cheap but once you start getting into 14 foot and larger cheap boats are hard to find, Lots of cheapish fibreglass boats about with very old motors on them. Frank And less headaches usually.One persons cheap is another persons expensive.One thing pepper don’t realise is buying the boat is the easy bit..Being able to afford to run,service and maintain it is a whole other kettle of fish. A bit like owning horses.Buying the horse is the cheap easy part..Ask me how I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotB Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, frankS said: In my opinion it is much cheaper to buy a package deal rather then buy seperate. Most 2nd hand motors worth buying are generally as much if not more than many package deals. Small 12 foot tinnies are cheap but once you start getting into 14 foot and larger cheap boats are hard to find, Lots of cheapish fibreglass boats about with very old motors on them. Frank years ago a mate owned a Marlin fiberglass boat , very well looked after , never taken offshore , one night we discovered that it has a hairline crack under the hull (could not see it ) if we tried while we were fishing in the bay , we got back to the ramp but it took about 4 minutes before we got all the water out of the bilge theres no way im getting on an old fiberglass boat ever again !, one day i will own a 14 + tinny that i will install kapstan collars to so that i can do do a bit of drifting/bottom bouncing out side when theres a very good day for it , i agree , with what your saying about buying a a package i look constantly , every now and then theres some really good deals out there, eg garaged all the time older well maintained good quinnys 14.5ft windshield front drive canopy old but excellent 25 //30hp motors for about 4 grand , its a waiting game and you need to be very quick and have the money for it , that i do not right now , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowjigger Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 5 hours ago, dotB said: years ago a mate owned a Marlin fiberglass boat , very well looked after , never taken offshore , one night we discovered that it has a hairline crack under the hull (could not see it ) if we tried while we were fishing in the bay , we got back to the ramp but it took about 4 minutes before we got all the water out of the bilge theres no way im getting on an old fiberglass boat ever again !, one day i will own a 14 + tinny that i will install kapstan collars to so that i can do do a bit of drifting/bottom bouncing out side when theres a very good day for it , i agree , with what your saying about buying a a package i look constantly , every now and then theres some really good deals out there, eg garaged all the time older well maintained good quinnys 14.5ft windshield front drive canopy old but excellent 25 //30hp motors for about 4 grand , its a waiting game and you need to be very quick and have the money for it , that i do not right now , Was that a Marlin Billfisher? They were foamed filled. I would trust an old fiberglass boat more than an old aluminium boat. The latter does funny things when it gets old - corrosion, metal fatigue, cracked welds. Fiberglass is at least more amenable to repairs - you can do it yourself too. As others have said it will be probably more expensive buying the components separately. You mentioned a budget of 2K - that should get a package if you go for something a bit smaller and older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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