gday pete where were you fishing mate i went down to the lake on wed had around 25-30 downs for one fish they just wernt being nice i had cabbage, weed, burley and they were there just not hooking up so i then moved to another spot to find there were alot less downs but a 90percebt hook up i got 3 more with 4 or 5 downs they were a bit small but nice and healthy looking..