RodHolder Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hi Guys, Please help with a ongoing dispute. These are the facts: person A catches live squid, puts it on his specifically rigged up rod. person A positions boat with leccy into the strick zone & holds it there. person A cast livey out & then passes rod to person B. person B, strikes, fights fish & with the help of person A (manouvering boat for best fighting position) lands fish with net. Who should take credit for the capture? its got to go to one or the other!!! no "team Work" responses, no 60/40 % breakdown. This argument needs to end here & now!!! Please post responce. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Person B caught the fish even if there are 6 rods out and you pick a rod up and catch the fish it,s your fish. unless there where rules to start with ie my rods don,t touch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insolent Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netic Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) Person B.........capture is his/hers...person A shouldnt pass the rod to person B if he/she is gonna be such a bit.chhh Edited September 11, 2007 by netic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemmm Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If person A is having trouble coming to grips with the basic laws of fishing edicate he shouldnt take his wife fishing with him. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) I reckon it shouldnt really matter amongst mates and friends! Its a fish for the boat! Not the person ....But whoever has the rod has the fish! D&G Edited September 11, 2007 by Dan and Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Sunn Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 got to be B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If person A is having trouble coming to grips with the basic laws of fishing edicate he shouldnt take his wife fishing with him. Dave I'll settle this once and for all. No matter who caught the fish, the fish is owned by the Government and they allowed you a lend of it by giving you permission to catch it. They owned the fish in the first place and when that's been fully digested, it all boils down to this, they own the rights to your drinking water that eventually comes out of it. So I reckon A and B both caught the fish and, after sharing the catch, they will be either releasing it or the fish will go onto both dinner plates, destined for the same end anyway. Jewgaffer Well said D & G but who eats the boat? The government picks up the deposit + G.S.T when the guts go back in the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew399 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 definately B!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I reckon it shouldnt really matter amongst mates and friends! Its a fish for the boat! Not the person ....But whoever has the rod has the fish! D&G Spot on! In the end, 'fishing' was the winner on the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I'll settle this once and for all. No matter who caught the fish, the fish is owned by the Government and they allowed you a lend of it by giving you permission to catch it. They owned the fish in the first place and when that's been fully digested, it all boils down to this, they own the rights to your drinking water that eventually comes out of it. So I reckon A and B both caught the fish and, after sharing the catch, they will be either releasing it or the fish will go onto both dinner plates, destined for the same end anyway. Jewgaffer Well said D & G but who eats the boat? The government picks up the deposit + G.S.T when the guts go back in the water Whoever has the abilty to eat alloy, metal, plastic and all the other tad bits of crap in the bottom of our boat? You game Jewgaffer ? D&G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger_shark Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If i was A then it would be A's fish..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) Ultimately it is whoever lands the fish - so I agree it would be B's fish. If B was only momentarily handed the rod to hold for a few seconds while A anchored etc - B as a matter of courtesy should have offered A early on the opportunity of taking over the fight. If A is a lazy ol' wotsit tho who just can't be bothered to hold his own rod - not only is B entitled to the fish, B is entitled to gloat to A about it all afternoon, and indeed for the rest of A's life. Edited September 11, 2007 by Webby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger_shark Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Ultimately it is whoever lands the fish - so I agree it would be B's fish. Although B as a matter of courtesy should have offered A early on the opportunity of taking over the fight. So A through default??? If i pick up someone elses rod i always offer it to them... So if A refuses to take the rod then its B's fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 So A through default??? If i pick up someone elses rod i always offer it to them... So if A refuses to take the rod then its B's fish. Hi Tiger Shark Yes I think I agree. And I always do the same. It's bad form not to give A the opportunity of landing the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger_shark Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Start a poll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaky181 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 The rules on our boat are simple if you have a rod in your hand and there is a fish attached to that rod then you caught the fish !!! If you are silly enough to hand your fishing rod to another person to hold then you are to silly to reel in the fish. So therefore i say person B gets the fish. I have a couple kids the amount of times that my rod is in the water just sitting there whilst working on the kids lines re hooking baiting de tangling birds nest etc someone picks up my rod and they are awarded with that catch. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landbased Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It is B's fish, that is unless a was my daughter then every fish is hers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inhlanzi Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It is A who should take credit for the capture. cheers inhlanzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Its like catching a fish on a charter, I think A deserves the credit. When Ross goes out and gets his clients onto fin, I'll congratulate Ross, not the customer that got handed the rod to wind it in. The work is in the hunt and the preparation etc, not in the catching. person B may have wound the fish in, but it was A that made it happen. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netic Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It is A who should take credit for the capture. cheers inhlanzi Inhlanzi.......I agree and disagree.... Person A did the hard work..which was set up the boat, Bait, Rod , get it down to the right depth and pretty much did all the knowledge work.... So credit should go the Person A for his prep work... But in the end it was person B who captured the fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Netic, I beleive Rodholder asked who should take credit for the fish. It obvious who wound in the fish, but the credit for the capture should go to person A for reasons previously stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Dan Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 never put yourself in that situation in the first place. Unless i had already caught a tonne of fish and my mate hadnt i would have yanked the rod out of B's hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan L Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 First off, i feel sorry for A for needing the gratification of having the fish as 'his' rather than 'ours'. similarly, i think B is just being a tool for claiming a capture that was largely the result of A's hard work. anywho, thats largely irrelevant. i guess if you want a concrete verdict the best place to look is the IGFA most certified world records are the accomplishment of a team: the skipper, deckie and angler. although the angler gets all the credit, the other member of the team are integral components in the successful capture and as such are equally responsible for the record. despite this, the angler is largely the only one recognised as being associated with the caputre. i don't know why this is so, and even though its pretty sucky, its the rules so i guess technically it's B's nonetheless, any fisho with a shred of integrity will acknowledge other people's captures (however undeserving) and get over it aero has a good point too btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netic Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) Netic, I beleive Rodholder asked who should take credit for the fish. It obvious who wound in the fish, but the credit for the capture should go to person A for reasons previously stated. Very true Aero...thats why i separated the 2...... But as Nathan has pointed out.....from an IGFA stand point it is always the angler who gets credit for the capture...... That same rule also applies to nearly every comp in the world unless the comp is going off a "Boat Catch".. Doesnt matter if we are talking Bream Comp, Mako comp, Marlin Comp.....its the angler who gets the credit Edited September 11, 2007 by netic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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