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1 hour ago, Noo2OzFish said:
Hello all
I have a Haines Hunter 520 profish and want to install a second battery. Where the first battery is aft under the live well on the starboard side there is a small raised area on the deck I imagine where the battery straps screw in. Well that is how I got it anyway. Not enough room for another battery on that raised section anyway. I was thinking of having 2 batteries 1 for the .motor and one for sounders radios etc. Does anyone run 2 totally seperate systems on board or is the dual battery system the way to go? Also with a fiberglass floor do you build a battery box or screw in one of those plastic battery boxes. Any suggestions appreciated
Bear
Hi Bear,
I run 3 x 730 CCA batteries under my rear seat. To reduce the number of holes in my deck, I have screwed water proof formply to my deck to make 2 bases onto which I mounted the battery box straps and my 2St oil reservoir. I did not screw the battery boxes down as it would be difficult to remove the batteries for servicing - I just undo the strap and slide the whole box out.
I run the battery connections through 2 switches, so that I can run off any combination of batteries - so I can make the battery circuits isolated or connected as I need at the flick of a switch (or two in my case - with 2 batteries you would only need one switch). I run my starting, anchor winch, electronics off the same live circuit and rely on a capacitor/noise suppressor to filter out the electrical noise (works well for me).
I have also installed a battery charging circuit that connects through a multipin male/female plug set up (it's the blue shrink wrapped cable you see in one of the photos) - basically means I don't have to get to the batteries for any reason except the annual battery service of fluid levels etc.
Cheers
Zoran
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6 hours ago, bizzyb said:
I've checked the choke switch on the outboard and its in the upright position. I haven't watched it during start up tho to see if it advanced to on or not.
Given you have spark and it eventually runs well - it sounds like you are not drawing enough fuel to start when cold and the carbies are dryer - which is the function of the choke.
You said the choke is in the upright position when you had the cowl off. When the engine is cold, have someone hold the choke closed and see if it kicks over quicker. If it does then you have isolated the problem to choke activation mechanism.
Also check your 1999 Yamaha model against the parts catalog (eg http://www.crowleymarine.com/yg/TW8448/yamaha-1999-yamaha-outboard-60hp) This 60hp model parts diagram shows a manual choke...the parts diagram for your model will help you isolate the issue.
Zoran
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Sorry I'm multitasking today and I must be missing something Donna... isn't Gibber off Port Stephens?
If I knew good Sydney tragg marks I'd post as I have on other topics.
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Thanks Mrs Swordie and Scratchie.... in the original post I think Goingfishing was asking for tragg gps marks off Sydney -- lots of other Sydney raiders ears %%%%%ed up !!!
Cheers
Zoran
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Awesome catch and great post. Those runs must have really got your adrenaline pumping.
Just one thing that others may be able to validate as well - make sure the tailor used for livies are over legal size (30cm) as I understand it using juvenile tailor for bait can get you in trouble.
Cheers
Zoran
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+1000000
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Just another thought - you could have some water condensation in the circuitry- so look for connections / fuses and blast with wd40.
Others have reported similar sporadic symptoms with Tilt and Trim.
cheers
Zoran
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17 hours ago, antonywardle said:
do you rig the shad just on a wide mouth hook like a pilly?
I made the paternoster rigs with red 2/0 suicide hooks. Thread the hook thru the “mouth” of the shad and out through the slit in the belly.
I typically put the shad on the bottom hook and the half pilly bait on the top hook. Keep the rig moving. If pickers smash the pilly then it just creates a bit of burley.
The shad is tougher so stays on like a bit of squid or occy bit it too often comes up with chunks chewed out or bitten off.
Anyway this set up works for me.
Cheers Z
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1 hour ago, flatheadluke said:
Thanks for sharing Antony and Zoran. Good to hear you both got onto a few.
what were the temps at? How were the currents? What was the water clarity like?
Water clarity - you can see the deep blue in the photos - that was about 12km out in 60-65m. Water temp 20.8C....current was light.
Cheers Z
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1 hour ago, GoingFishing said:
Sounds like an awesome day out Zoran with good company and a great feed
legal sizing of whiting is relatively straight forward. The only species of whiting to have a size limit is the sand whiting.... all other whiting species have no size limit.
PS - how high is the gunnel on your boat !!! Looks almost chest height.
Thanks for the info re spotted whiting GoingFishing ! ... I have only been familiar with sand whiting. Good to know.
Re gunnels: guess it just shows most of us on board were short arses- thanks for pointing it out so subtly he he he. Chest high --- depends on the crew. My wife is 5'1, Wayne is 6' - so I guess the gunnel is more appropriately sized for Wayne.
Cheers Z
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Cheers Antony.... thanks for stopping by last Friday and the compliment re my boat - great to have met you.
Yes I got out on Saturday - accompanied by my buddy Wayne and our good wives. I was busy Sunday so a bit late in posting my report so I'll add it to yours here as we both fished Broken Bay offshore - pretty much same playground.
Saturday's plan was to repeat the previous weeks success with flatties...so we headed due east from Barrenjoey hitting the marked wrecks and stopping at 30-40-50-60m depths to fish on the drift. We found the flatties in the 40-50m range and ended up with 14 flatties with most being in the 45-55cm range. The bite was a lot slower and the fish were further apart compared to last week.
We fished 2 hook paternoster rigs and mixed it up with a variety of baits - small squid, pilchard halves, prawns and 5-6in Gulp Jerk Shads (Chartreuse Pepper Neon) until we found out what was working that day. All the baits landed a fish but the pilchards and Jerk Shads were the pick on that day - the Jerk Shads accounted for most of the bigger fish landed. We also picked up a few of fish that had the body shape of a whiting (but were a darker more mottled colour) all about 22-25cm - so released them as they seemed under sized until I could confirm what they were. (If they were a type of whiting I have never caught whiting at those depths before!)
As you say water was glassy, the NE breeze (made the otherwise hot weather really pleasant) and also pushed us south - so by 3pm we were a few km off Avalon and called it a day. We trolled 4 hardbodies along the headland back to Barrenjoey for zip.
But all in all a fantastic day out with our ladies.
We met up with some blokes at the fish cleaning tables who had a good haul of mixed reef fish - but they were very "mum" about where they fished - perhaps not "fishraiders" he he he.
Here's a few snaps from our trip (I also included a picture of the Jerk Shad that did the damage ... and our half share of finished fillets.)
Cheers
Zoran
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Awesome! 12mile?
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Awesome ! ... best of luck. I love live bait downrigging but if you're doing it in close to the headlands it needs a crew that knows what to do and how to handle the gear... I'm still training mine and unfortunately I tend to be at the helm on the tighter trolls.
We had the second feed of flattie fillets tonight (from the last trip) and they were just delish ...and I'll be out chasing flatties again tomorrow accompanied by my dear missus, my buddy and his wife - plan is launch Parsley Bay and head east off Barrenjoey until we find them.
I will be carrying the trolling gear just in case.... so if you are getting smashed and need help managing the school --- my call sign is BARRYCUDA on VHF16 !
Cheers
Zoran
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Good mates,nice scenery, bit of speed - it all makes it seem shorter - but the fuel tank and gps don’t lie !!!
Screen shot is from Navionics on my iPhone. I also run it on my mini iPad in a waterproof case as my on boat navigation and have dedicated my Eagle combo to the sonar scan functions until it dies. I’ve posted on this set up previously.
Cheers Z
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Yup agree. We trolled through the whitewash and under the scum lines. Could see the bait balls and some bigger arches below them - but they just were not coming up. We didn't bring the downrigger so couldn't troll lures at depth. When I had seen this scenario previously the downrigger + live bait paid off. But we also didn't catch any live bait on the way out due to the delayed start. So somedays you just gotta make do with what you've got.
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Sure is !
How long it seems is a function of speeeeeed!
cheers
Zoran
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2 hours ago, Lagos said:
Great catch and nice report Zoran
Thanks for taking the photo at the ramp !!!
Cheers Z
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Cheers Guys. We have an upright freezer in the garage. Since its a freezer it runs all the time - so my thought was why not use the space. My wife has top 4 shelves I have the bottom basket. It rarely gets full but when it does I to re-arrange my ice packs around the other stuff or at worse temporarily take them out. If taken out - they go into an eski and stay frozen for quite a few days if the eski stays closed. By using the "smaller" containers I found it easy to pack around other items then if they were the bigger bulkier containers. It's all about working with what you've got I guess.
BTW, the other thing I found was that when we did have a power outage - the ice packs were in the freezer helping to keep everything frozen.
Anyway it works for me, can't remember the last time I bought ice for a fishing trip. I'm sure others have their tips as well.
Cheers Z
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Hey Raiders,
(I wasn't sure if I should post this in Boating or Workshop section - so moderators please move as you see fit.)
Generally I like to recycle and I definitely like to keep my boating costs as low as possible. I also like to look after my catch which means keeping it in a cold saltwater slurry as as soon as caught. I found that buying bags of ice was always a pain and at around $5 a bag certainly not cheap.
I've been using the following solution for a number of years now and yesterday at the boat ramp had a number of people comment positively about it so I though I'd share here:
- fill plastic preserved fruit containers about 90% with fresh water and freeze them into reusable ice packs.
- line the bottom of my 120L eski with a layer of these frozen containers.
- cutdown a plastic crate to fit inside the eski so that it sits on top of the ice layer (I have added rope handles to the crate to make it easy to remove and lift out the catch)
- fill about 2-3inches of salt water into the crate to store the catch - it only takes minutes to cool.
Note: I put the ice packs into my eski at 9pm night before the fishing trip - back home around 5pm the next day after a full day on water and find that each ice pack is still 2/3 frozen. A quick hose down and wipe and they go back into the freezer for the next trip.
Some advantages:
- The salt water cools (very cold) in minutes and keeps all the catch fresh.
- You can also easily replace the water if it gets too bloody/dirty from the catch without losing your "ice".
- There is no fresh water contact with the saltwater fish at any time preserving your catch.
Cheers
Zoran
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Hey Raiders,
With the motor now fixed and purring like a big cat, I mustered a crew for Sunday - we decided to revisit the Hawkesbury / Barrenjoey area to put to rest the last trip where we had an engine down.
530am stopped at a servo on the way only to discover 5 fully tricked speedboats all topping up - quick chat to one of the guys and yes they were off to Parsley Bay for the bridge to bridge. SHIT! I had been distracted with the motor and keeping an eye on the weather and had completely forgotten this race was on - Parsley Bay would be an absolute dogs breakfast of trailers and boaters jostling to launch and park. Sure enough one of my crew was already at the ramp and calling us to abort.
Back in the car, we did a quick replan and decided to meet up and launch at Apple Tree Bay.
Found Apple Tree Bay empty - only 5 trailers already parked there, no queue so it was a quick launch and off we went. The 22km run to the heads gave us plenty of time to confirm the motor issues were behind us. Some stats from the Merc 200HP EFI pushing the Haines 635L : 3400rpm 40km/h, 4000rpm, 55km/h, 5000rpm 70km/h.
730am Started the troll from Westhead around Barrenjoey to Bilgola. Water 20.1C. I had previously found the Bangalley Head to Bilgola Head section to be very productive. Lots of bait balls but nothing was coming up. Changed lures no takers. Trolled through to change of tide (around 940am) and then called stumps on trolling.
We hit several reefs/wrecks as we made our way back up towards Broken Bay. Got to Trawleys (30m) and still nothing in the ice box - although plenty of small reef fish and undersized flatties. Made a decision to head east and try the marked wrecks in the deeper water.
40m - one keeper flatties landed but still lots of pickers.
50m - another keeper.
Ended up about 10km out in 60m - bam we found them. Flatties to 60cm. (Surface water temp 18.1C).
There were two trawlers doing the round about another 2km out. We ducked out there once they had left for zip.
2-300pm -Trolled back to Barrenjoey for zip.
But all in all a great day on the water and ended with 21keeper flatties and smiles all around.
Cheers
Zoran
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Nice mixed bag....lots of great meals there.... good stuff !!
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What do they taste like fried with a bit of batter, chips on the side ???
Oooops sorry... just realised this was NOT the Kitchen forum..
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I did all my reels with carbontex... I guess I am now an old salt (turned 55yo this year) and I have found that if you look after your gear it friggin lasts forever... so some of the gear I mention next will probably come from the history books for you younger guys.....
In overheads I am still fishing my trusty penn 320GTi (bought in 1986), 330GTis (1996) and 45GLS reels (1996). I upgraded all these and my spinning gear with carbontex.... no joke the next outing we landed a 70kg marlin trolling on kingfish gear with the 330GTi reel and a 15kg rod. Reel got HOT... you could smell it... but we landed the fish, took the obligatory video/photo and released. I can honestly say carbontex made the difference... as Hateanchors said -- you WILL get more drag and it WILL be smoother.
My spin gear is also Penn and Shimano ... same deal - carbontex all around - but no big story to tell re those - still trying to hook up to THAT fish!
Cheers
Zoran
PS - bought the carbontex sheet from downrigger shop. I bought a wad punch set on ebay (about $18) to make the carbontex washers...so my recommendation make your own.
If your interested here is the old report:
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Thanks for all the great posts Raiders and the PM's I have received.
One thing that we all seem to agree on is that a significant factor in the choice of a motor/brand are the local dealers/mechanics that you trust. In my case I have 3 Mercury dealers all within 5-20min drive before I get to the 1st Yammie or Evinrude dealer at 35min drive. The Yammie and Evinrude guys are in opposite directions. I would not touch the Honda dealer in the area. So you can see one of the reasons why I run a Merc.
Rick.. I know I am not getting a lot of posts to my specific question (150hp modern motor with 6m heavy hull)...as conventionally it would not have been done. But that was the whole point of my question and I am happy that already there have been a few posts/PMs come through.
BTW, I didn't see GoingFishing's last video as been a shoot out between a 150hp eTec and a 200hp Yammie 4St... from my perspective I saw it as a demonstration that a modern 150hp eTec can get the job done on a 6m+ heavy boat (the test boat was 7.3m, 2.4m beam, 3T on the water) ... and sure to your point putting a 200HP 2St Yammie (or any other brand 200HP 2St would probably also get the job done) .. but that was not my question.
Looking at those videos it also occurred to me that the USA guys are a bit ahead of us on access to this modern outboard technology... so I had a poke around some of their forums and sure enough this topic has been debated since 2014 !!!
Heres an excerpt....
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https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating-forum/610380-150-hp-4-strokes-mercury-yamaha-3.html
i bought a new sailfish with the merc 150 due to the dealer being a merc certified and they were yamaha. i couldnt be happier. The motor is super smooth and easy to maintain. I have the 220 CC and thought it would be underpowered but ive been surprised. I get 40 Top end and plains quickly. If i go to the 27' im getting the twin merc 150's
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I looked up the specs on a Sailfish 220C
http://www.boattest.com/review/sailfish/3191_220cc
Dry Weight 4,450 lbs.
2,018 kg(w/ eng)As I go through this season on my 200 EFI work horse, I plan to keep an eye on the US sites for a while. The US market is ahead of us, is far bigger then us down here, and the technology will address their requirements before ours. So I feel as long as our dealers stay with the major brands/models that are seen un the US we'll be ok to take some input from the trends they are seeing there ...
Cheers
Zoran
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Hi Bear,
Sorry was very busy last two days and now I am away from home so can't take a picture. But I have drawn up a schematic of how it all comes together. I screwed two lengths of timber at the front of the formply base to prevent the battery boxes sliding forward (timber stops). Two screws fix the formply base to the deck. I bought the battery boxes from whitworths - these came with nylon straps and plastic clips to hold down the straps. But rather then using the plastic clips (seemed fragile), I cut slots into the formply base and threaded the straps through that. Fewer screws and fittings and strong as.
In the top left of the photo that I posted previously you can see the left most battery box with lid on, and strap tightened and sitting snug up against the timber stop.
Hope my sketch helps.
Cheers
Zoran
PS - to the other comments about dual batteries. A couple of comments:
1. I also had a battery drop a plate coming up from the spit at 5000rpm and everything went dead - the motor the electronics all dead. I flicked the switch, isolated the bad battery, clicked in the spare and we were off again - something to bear in mind if you like to troll along the headlands - I'd hate to have to muck around with swapping batteries or trying to jumpstart in those conditions.
2. If you have an EFI motor, unless you are running amongst the latest EFI motors chances are you cannot even pull start the motor without at least 8-10V to the EFI high pressure pump. The pump needs this minimum voltage to prime the fuel injection manifold at the required pressure. No battery - no go. A good reason to install a 2nd battery if you are running EFI. Carburettor models don't have this limitation.