How we ‘aught’ to…

[Little_Flatty]

Watching a few fly tying videos recently made me question the way I have pronounced hook sizes my whole life.

How did you pronounce ‘4/0’? Four ‘O’ or four ‘aught’?

When I first heard the ‘aught’ pronunciation I thought the fly tyer had a speech impediment, but then I realised it was a thing! Something to do with wire sizes, apparently.

Never too young to learn something new! How do you all pronounce it?

[JustJames]

Four zero

Four null

Four nothing

Four slash

 

 

 

I'm just here to help.

[frankS]

I would call it 4 bar 0 

Frank

[Green Hornet]

4 “O” where I’m from. That’s what my dad taught me.

[XD351]

I think aught is an American term .

I would say four oh . 

Edited November 1, 2023 by XD351

[zmk1962]

38 minutes ago, Little_Flatty said:

How did you pronounce ‘4/0’? Four ‘O’ or four ‘aught’?

I think ‘aught … is Naught as in 0

… you may not be hearing the N

… but it’s a phonetic “4 oh” in my vocabulary 

cheers Zoran 

[XD351]

Weirdest use of the aught thing is with a rifle cartridge 30-06( 30cal, released 1906), Americans call it 30-aught 6 but pronounce 1906 as 19 oh 6 as do we. Here it is 30-oh 6.

You are probably right there Zoran - aught is naught without the N .

I don’t know the origin of the bar oh designation -4/0 ( four bar oh ) surprised it isn’t pronounced four forward slash oh 

[JustJames]

51 minutes ago, XD351 said:

Americans call it 30-aught 6 but pronounce 1906 as 19 oh 6

 

You are talking about a bunch for whom today, November the second 2023 is written as 11/2/23...y'know, for clarity. 

[noelm]

Always been 4-oh to me, and probably always will be.

[Blackfish]

I have never heard of it being called “Ought” always “O” to me as well.

 

[XD351]

It could be worse - hooks could use the same size designations as drill bits !

Metric , inch, letter and number sizes . I’m waiting for someone to put a # in front of the hook size 

Edited November 2, 2023 by XD351

[zmk1962]

5 hours ago, JustJames said:

 

You are talking about a bunch for whom today, November the second 2023 is written as 11/2/23...y'know, for clarity. 

I guess that ought to explain it 🤣

Edited November 2, 2023 by zmk1962

[Isaac Ct]

100% 4 'o', I think aught is an American thing.

[noelm]

Americans have all sorts of funny terminology, some words they officially changed to suit themselves. The common one is Aluminium, all metals ended in “ium” like titanium, but they changed it to Aluminum (pronounced al ooo me num) because they didn’t like to say the ium on the end, even a word like “solder” they say “sodder” why? I have no idea.

[XD351]

Probably the same reason they drive on the wrong side of the road, use 110v for domestic supply , call petrol gasoline and on and on etc - if you can answer that then you will have solved one of the greatest mysteries of all

Now can we pick on the kiwis???? There are some real gems in there 

[Rob81]

At first I was thinking the same thing, "Aught" being "Naught", however, saw these:

 

and

[big Neil]

I fish for Murray Cod using the number then oh

3  0    worms, shrimp

4  0    cubes of cheese

5  0     yabbies or chicken pieces

 

bn

[Yowie]

If she is 36/24/36, then it is oh,oh,oh afterwards.

[XD351]

4 hours ago, Rob81 said:

At first I was thinking the same thing, "Aught" being "Naught", however, saw these:

 

and

I originally thought that this saying may have come about from wartime surgery but from what I have read early sutures were #1,#2 etc and sizes 1/0 (0) thru to 6/0( 000000) appear to be 20th century designations . 1/0 is thicker than 6/0 . 

[XD351]

https://archives.cjr.org/language_corner/language_corner_072814.php#:~:text=That's because “aught” can mean,that was originally a mistake.

[Blackfish]

I “Ought” to have gone out fishing but the wife said no. 
“Oh” poor me.

[XD351]

8 minutes ago, Blackfish said:

I “Ought” to have gone out fishing but the wife said no. 
“Oh” poor me.

I don’t have that problem - single, no kids so fishing here I come 🎣🎣🎣🤣🤣🤣

[Blackfish]

Then ….

”Oh” I went fishing though I “Ought” to have stayed at home and fixed the mower.

My plan was better than Blackfish’s. ……

[XD351]

The mower will still be there tomorrow- the fish may not 🤣🤣 

That’s my excuse 🤣🤣

[Burger]

Dad taught me 1 oh, so that’s what I go with….

bloody yanks messing things up AGAIN!😂

Got their own ‘gallons’, drivin on the wrong side of the road…. How the heck did they become a superpower 🫣😏😉🤣