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Great write up @Restyle

haven’t bought bait for a while.


I vac seal then freeze fresh squid I catch myself. 

I also salt/strip my own fish - mainly Slimies, Mac tuna or bonito. 
strip, salt, vac seal into portions then into the freezer

Will salt my own pilchards too.

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A great “Chat” @Restyle, thanks for your thoughts / experience. I totally agree with your comments about “Hawkesbury squid” and live caught is always best.

Being “kingfish focussed”, I always catch live bait on my fishing trips and really like slimy mackerel, Yakkas and squid, and I always burley up with bread and the frames of the bait fish I have slabbed / stripped for bait as well as bycatch such as sweep. I have caught many many species on fresh bread floated backOver Christmas period I collect pink nippers and although delicate they are deadly. 
 

I’ve never really fished for or with mullet, but know that many jewfish specialists use nothing else. On blackfish (also bream), make an excellent bait for big Jewies (have to be leagal size to use as bait of course, but “big baits =big fish”).

I usually float a bread bait out the back in the burley and have caught many different species including flathead, snapper and legal kingfish.

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14 hours ago, Little_Flatty said:

That said, if I recall correctly though, @Yowie has caught a fish out of a toilet...true story and no word of a joke! But then again nothing fishing-wise surprises us with Yowie...) 

@Little_FlattyI’m not too sure about Yowie, but I posted quite some time back about a large bream I caught by dropping a line down my auntie and uncle’s toilet at Illawong. 


They owned a house that sat out over the water and back in the1960’s, long before the EPA, their toilet pan just sat over a hole in the floor and everything was deposited directly into the Georges.

As a young kid, I thought it would be funny to drop a prawn on a handline down and be buggered if I didn’t hook a bream too large to fit up through the hole. My uncle had a row boat tied up under the house and eventually rowed out so I could drop the fish down to him.

That being said, I have no doubt that Yowie could pull a fish out of a garden tap.

 

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3 hours ago, Green Hornet said:

@Little_FlattyI’m not too sure about Yowie, but I posted quite some time back about a large bream I caught by dropping a line down my auntie and uncle’s toilet at Illawong. 


They owned a house that sat out over the water and back in the1960’s, long before the EPA, their toilet pan just sat over a hole in the floor and everything was deposited directly into the Georges.

As a young kid, I thought it would be funny to drop a prawn on a handline down and be buggered if I didn’t hook a bream too large to fit up through the hole. My uncle had a row boat tied up under the house and eventually rowed out so I could drop the fish down to him.

That being said, I have no doubt that Yowie could pull a fish out of a garden tap.

 

Ah that was you! No wonder I couldn't find it! Sorry about the misattribution.

I should mention that nothing surprises us about you either, Pete :) 

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20 hours ago, Little_Flatty said:

Fab, you do know that you need to put baits into the water, with a hook attached, if you want to catch fish right? Also, your bathtub and toilet doesn't count as fishable waters...unless there are live fish in there! (That said, if I recall correctly though, @Yowie has caught a fish out of a toilet...true story and no word of a joke! But then again nothing fishing-wise surprises us with Yowie...) Make sure you try these suggestions before you lodge any warranty claims with the bait shop 🤣

😂😂😂I’m well aware you need bait and hook in water.Bath tub and toilet fishing is for peasants mate.I fish in my pool.😂Now let’s move on to that mystical creature we all know as Yowie.You have the toilet story all wrong my friend.I was told by a close source that indeed Mr Yowie was seated on the toilet that famous day fishing when he caught that fish on a worm.When it bit  he jumped up screaming and yelling he was on.

  The part of the story you missed out on was that he won the prize for a fish caught on the smallest,shrivelled,driest,oldest,smelliest worm any one has caught a fish on.😂😂

  To this day our friend Yowie has never toilet fished again.

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Well Fab, this is a true story. On 2 occasions I have caught John Dory, no bait or line, with bare hands. On both occasions the dory swam into shallow water chasing little fish and I grabbed them and picked them up, and took them home for a feast or 2.

Another story is that is how John Dory developed the large spot on their sides. :074:

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On 8/15/2022 at 8:50 AM, Restyle said:

Hawksbury prawns - Not a huge fan of prawns, but they are a great all-round bait for just about every estuary species, pickers love them so don't expect to catch anything too big off them constantly, wouldn't recommend getting these from servos as they are usually freezer burnt.

Frozen I am also not a big fan but fresh they are a totally different story. Caught heaps of legal Kings on them in Pittwater while targeting Bream & Flathead. Fresh Whitebait also has the same results.

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8 hours ago, Green Hornet said:

As a young kid, I thought it would be funny to drop a prawn on a handline down and be buggered if I didn’t hook a bream too large to fit up through the hole.

Haha, I've done the same thing at my sisters old place at Illawong, only I used corn. Used to also fish out of the lounge room window. Down the bottom of Old Ferry Rd by any chance? Not a fish that you would want to eat judging by their diet.

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13 hours ago, Fried Rice said:

Haha, I've done the same thing at my sisters old place at Illawong, only I used corn. Used to also fish out of the lounge room window. Down the bottom of Old Ferry Rd by any chance? Not a fish that you would want to eat judging by their diet.

My auntie always had a handline out the kitchen window with the cork left in the sink. When she’d hear the cork rattling around it was time to go and see what’s for dinner.

I assume it was Ferry Rd. Their house was just a couple down from the old Lugano punt.

 

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1 hour ago, bessell1955 said:

How about the old common garden worm?  I am sure it has taken its fair share of fish.

Never used them before so I didn’t include them, same or pipies. Have heard plenty of good from garden worms though

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On 8/15/2022 at 9:19 AM, JamoDamo said:

Another underused bait are the little crabs you find under rocks in the mangroves and intertidal zones in estuaries! Super easy to gather and really good for bream fishing them unweighted or with a little split shot in current, been smoked by massive bream I couldn't stop plenty of times on em!

How do you rig them on the hook?

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7 hours ago, HawkesburyParadise said:

I have a compost bin at home and I keep thinking of using them. However, It seems a bit icky to me :(

 Now there’s a word I haven’t heard for Yonks that woman use.Icky.😂😂😂

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9 hours ago, HawkesburyParadise said:

I have a compost bin at home and I keep thinking of using them. However, It seems a bit icky to me :(

I visited a mate many years ago at Cootamundra. We dug some garden worms, headed to the Murrumbidgee River near Gundagai and pulled out 5 rainbow trout between us, not big ones but big enough. Filleted and pan fried in butter, delicious.

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On 8/17/2022 at 6:22 AM, Pickles said:


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I’ve never really fished for or with mullet, but know that many jewfish specialists use nothing else. On blackfish (also bream), make an excellent bait for big Jewies (have to be legal size to use as bait of course, but “big baits =big fish”)...................................................

 

have seen jewfish take a blackfish which was being retrieved in Narabeen Lake..........

Jim

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