mowie1 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 The old 40yamaha has seen out its life (36years) need a new 4stroke. Tossing up between Yamaha F40 & Suzuki DF40. Change over price nearly the same. Much the same motor Warranty 3Years Yamaha, 6Years Suzuki. Any thoughts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Go for the warranty, make sure it's a full warranty and not some aftermarket 3rd party gimmick. Honda were offering a full 7 year recreational use warranty recently. edit.......before the "Honda is too heavy" crowd jump in, check the weight! Edited September 18, 2022 by noelm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfish Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 With the warranty I think you have to have it serviced by a "Authorised" dealer that may charge premium costs. Mate just got a new Merc and the warranty was similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerotao Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Let us know how you go. My 50hp yammy is 33years old. And im considering a 4stroke in the near future. Or new boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Mate be aware, Warranties can be a problem down the track. You have said how good your Yamaha is. I wouldn't hesitate, I would by another Yamaha. Good luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Not too sure how warranties can be a problem later, unless it's a 3rd party extended warranty, most manufacturers warranty are full warranties, unless it's a maintenance or neglect/abuse issue, the motor is covered. Most services do not need to be performed by an authorised dealer, however there is some stipulations if they are not, make 100% sure you understand that! All motors are good these days, you need to look at price, warranty, weight and dealer distance and reputation, then juggle that around to buy what suits you best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Ive always been a Yamaha must have kind of person but these can also have issues like any other brand. Recently looking into getting a new engine on my boat, Yamaha state the engine has to be fitted by them as well as serviced by them. The Yamaha mechanic I often work for skippering his urchin and abalone boat actually has a Honda, simply because they cost around 5k less than Yam and offer better warranties even on commercial vessels. In saying that he does prefer Yamaha, not that there has been any problem in the first 1500hrs from the Honda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunc333 Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 iv e gone from merc to yammi now to suzuki all 4 strokes and all have been flawless for me .you look after them and they will look after you unless you get a lemon which can happen in any brand you decide on cheers dunc333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 Yep that pretty much sums it up, look at the "features" I listed above, I have owned all brands at one time or another, currently got Yamaha and Suzuki's, both are just as good as each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I thought about going from my 30hp 2 stroke Yamaha to a 40hp 4 stroke.I would do my homework on all the different outboards like the guys have said.Last time I looked Yamaha were on the expensive side compared to etecs and mercury especially.I nearly went a 40hp etec but I can’t justify getting rid of my as new 30 clunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowie1 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just ordered Suzuki 50hp delivered to dealer Friday. Same specs as 40hp. Little more rpms. Would have had to wait 4 -6 weeks for Yamaha. Yamaha 40hp 747cm, Suzuki 40hp 941, cm both 3 cylinder. Yamaha 50hp is 4cylinder 996cm. Long wait time. Interested to see how new motor compares with old Yamaha at same rpms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowjigger Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, mowie1 said: Just ordered Suzuki 50hp delivered to dealer Friday. Same specs as 40hp. Little more rpms. Would have had to wait 4 -6 weeks for Yamaha. Yamaha 40hp 747cm, Suzuki 40hp 941, cm both 3 cylinder. Yamaha 50hp is 4cylinder 996cm. Long wait time. Interested to see how new motor compares with old Yamaha at same rpms. Do you mean cc's, ie engine capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fab1 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 8 hours ago, slowjigger said: Do you mean cc's, ie engine capacity? He’s be talking engine displacement cc’s yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 21 hours ago, mowie1 said: Just ordered Suzuki 50hp delivered to dealer Friday. Same specs as 40hp. Little more rpms. Would have had to wait 4 -6 weeks for Yamaha. Yamaha 40hp 747cm, Suzuki 40hp 941, cm both 3 cylinder. Yamaha 50hp is 4cylinder 996cm. Long wait time. Interested to see how new motor compares with old Yamaha at same rpms. Best guess it will be better in every way, from starting, smoothness, power delivery and way better on fuel, no smoke and no mixing oil in the fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I have a 50 Yamaha tiller steer on my crabbing tinny, it's a great engine, but I hate the tiller! Not too sure if yours is tiller or forward steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowie1 Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 Suzuki has a bigger bore &stroke 72.5x76mm and 12 valve, gear ratio 2.27:1. Yamaha bore & stroke 65x75mm and 6 valve, gear ratio 2.00:1. At the end of the day they are both very close to each other. Suzuki in stock Yamaha have 4 to 6 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonywardle Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 congrats! Im sure you'll love it. I'm in a similar boat, in that if I keep getting sesick, then it might be time for me to go 4 stroke. Then its deciding between the bands for a 115/140 although I did get quote 10 month wait list for one of the brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunc333 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 give us a report after your first trip mowie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowie1 Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Repower update Picked up boat on Friday. Started run in Monday, Tuesday. Just past 4000rpm stage. So quiet and uses hardly any fuel. Digital gauge have more info than I could ask for. The mechanic did a great job +++++ nothing was a bother, explained how things work. Dont know if I can give him a plug on this forum. He seems to work on all brands of motor. Just waiting for the rain to stop and see how she performs at revs compared to old motor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunc333 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 well done mowie 1 hard to go past a four stroke cheers dunc333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Congrats. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowie1 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 Finely got to put some hours on new motor. Not fully run in but can run at full power for short periods (rocket). The difference is outstanding. The boat seems to like around 4500 rpm. Very happy. Put out some crab pots see reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noelm Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 It's amazing when you go to a new 4 stroke hey? All the old less power and stuff like that just disappears into a distant memory (like the smoke) when reality hits and all those urban myths are blown out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowie1 Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 Miss the smell of 2 stroke in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmk1962 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 57 minutes ago, mowie1 said: Miss the smell of 2 stroke in the morning Why ? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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