good to be out Bob, if your doing burley and you happen to attract a school of fish, toss a bait in with the burley unweighted, from pass experience, back when i was fishing on a boat, i remember one time, we were burleying with pillies, and a school of kingie came, but not of them were taking the bait on sinker, they will smash all the pillies drifting down, and we switched to a hook and no sinker and drift with just a chuck of pillies and we managed to hook them. might be worth while to give it a try next time~